LIRR Hooping Orders |
Caboose N52, Train #L56 Port
Jefferson freight. Pete Lutchksa, Block Operator at Divide, hooping
orders to the Conductor. Summer 1954 |
Caboose #22 on EB Port Jefferson freight catching orders at "DIVIDE" Tower
Hicksville, NY - 1949
(John Krause photo, Dave Keller archive)
FM CPA20-5 #2002 eastbound Port Jefferson train catching orders at
"DIVIDE" Tower Hicksville, NY - c. 1955 (John Krause photo, Dave Keller
archive) |
FM C-liner eastbound on Port Jefferson branch
at "DIVIDE" tower,
Hicksville, NY 12/05/54. Byron Rushmore Feed and Coal distant
right. ( Kohl -Keller) |
Engineer Robert Creighton of LIRR #113 H10s at Divide
Tower getting hooped orders
Summer 1954 Archive: Art Huneke
FM #2006 Orders at Montauk
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FM H16-44 #1507 hoping orders at
DIVIDE Hicksville 1955
close-up Archive: Dave Keller
FM H16-44 #1506 Crew Deer Park 1957 Photo: J. P. Krzenski photo
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Conductor Richard Mancini on eastbound Montauk train #4
getting orders from block operator Ed Sorensen at “PD” tower, Patchogue
1971 Photo: Dave Keller
Engineer of RS3 #1559 westbound with Patchogue-Babylon “Scoot”
getting orders from operator Ed Sorensen at PD tower, Patchogue 8/1971
Photo: Dave Keller
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LIRR #1559 at PD Tower 1970
Photo: Dave Keller
Engineer Becker with C420 #226 on eastbound Montauk train #4 getting
orders from operator Ed Sorensen at PD tower, Patchogue 1971
Photo: Dave Keller
LIRR MP15AC's #164, #155 ballast train hooping orders at PD, Patchogue
10/22/78
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DK Deer Park Orders 1975
Photo: Tim Darnell
The fellow on the ground in the white shirt and tan pants is Dick Ifferte.
He was the first trick Agent-Operator at DK. I think he remained there until
the job was abolished with the electrification to
KO. Info: Jim Gillin
MP-15ac #152 with Rick Walters, first trick Agent-Operator Deer
Park,
giving the orders to train RF-61. 4/1978 Info/Photo: Jim Gillin
J. A. Gillin 2nd trick Agent-Operator Deer Park [DK]
handing up orders to RF-59
late afternoon in Jan, 1978. Photo: by G. P. Lind Archive: Jim Gillin
Montauk bound train receiving
Hooping orders at PD Tower 12/1997
Photo/Archive: Bob Bender
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Nassau Tower Orders 1976
Photo: Tim Darnell
Ronkonkoma Orders 07/1975
Photo: Tim Darnell
Ronkonkoma KO Orders 1976
Photo: Tim Darnell
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Eastbound LIRR #211 at B Tower,
Bethpage receiving orders
3/06/1976 Photo: Rich Taylor\
Eastbound LIRR #4202 at B Tower Bethpage receiving orders
from Sal Valenti, Block Operator 1/1979 Photo: Jim Gillin
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B Tower hooping orders to the Engineer c.1987
Photo/Archive: Bill Mangahas
B Tower hooping orders to the Conductor c.1987
Photo/Archive: Bill Mangahas
Train 4202, on its way to Greenport, gets its K-Cards "on two sticks" at B
Tower in Bethpage from Operator Bruce Conger. The train's Engineer is
snagging his copy off of the first stick as the photo is taken. The train's
Conductor, we can just see his right hand in the vestibule, will get his
copy off the second stick in Bruce's left hand. When approaching the Tower,
train crews would often inform the Block Operator by radio if they wanted
their paperwork on two separate sticks, or all together on one. Either
delivery scenario was fine, and it was totally the choice of the train crew.
May, 1985. Photo/Archive/Info: Jay Bendersky
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Eastbound train receiving orders at PD Tower, Summer
1980. Photo: Jack Deasy
LIRR #262 PD orders 9/18/1998
Photo: Joe Saullo
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Train 2704 on 4/27/2006 at PD
Photo: Nick Kudreyko
Train 2704 on 4/27/2006 at PD
Photo: Nick Kudreyko |
Chris Soundy hooping orders to the Engineer at PD
Photo: Pat Masterson 5/04/2006
Chris Soundy hooping orders to the conductor at PD
Photo: Pat Masterson 5/04/2006 |
Train 2716 on 7/20/2006 at Babylon
Photo: Nick Kudreyko
Train 2716 on 7/20/2006 at Babylon
Photo: Nick Kudreyko |
FORM 19 - TRAIN
ORDER FORM
LIRR Form 19
Train 2716 on 07/20/06 at Babylon Collection: Nick Kudreyko
The Form 19 was a train order given verbally via the dispatcher in Jamaica
(Room 204) to every block operator on the system as it pertained to his
individual section of track, etc.
The operator would answer the dispatcher's phone (or in the days of telegraph,
he would hear his call letter tapping over the line, and sign on: "PD"
would have been ..... -..)
He would take a blank From 19 pad, insert carbon paper to get the required
amount of copies and a hard backing so as to provide a hard writing surface and
copy the order, by hand, from the dispatcher.
He would then repeat the order back to the dispatcher. If all was correct,
he would put the superintendent of transportation's initials across the bottom
of the order, "make the order complete", sign the order and put the
time it was made complete.
He would then take the top two copies and put them on the order hoops or "Y"s,
holding one up to the engineer and the other up to the conductor. This
procedure was also done to freights. (The office copies were put on a hook on
the wall. At the end of the month, they were bundled up and tossed in the
attic of "PD".
Also included in with the order may have
been various forms of clearance cards (ex: "K" card, "C"
card, etc.) Research: Dave Keller
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Old Order Hoop
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Sample Order affixed to Hoop |
Close-up of Hoop Clip |
Here's another Form 19 from
Patchogue before the days of "PD". The block station call
letters were "PG" and was located in the depot. When
"PD" cabin and later "PD" tower opened, the station
retained "PG" as their telegraphic call letters for station
business and "PD" was put in use for the block business. It
reads:
Train Order No. 29
Apl 4, 1906
For:
PG
To:
C/E Of:
No. 504
No. 503 five hundred three will meet No. 504 five hundred four at Oakdale.
F.H.W.
Rec'd: 1:07 pm Made: Complete 1:11
pm Rec'd by: Webb, Opr.
You'll also notice that the orders show the use of the old train numbers
(500 series) prior to the days of Montauk trains having single digits and
Speonk trains having double digits (except on weekends and holidays where
they became 4 digit numbers). You'll also notice they're written on Long
Island Railroad Company stationery. (Railroad as one word!!)
Research: Dave Keller |
LIRR Form 19
Dave Keller Collection |