LIRR STEAM ENGINES #35 and #39
ENGINE #35

Steam Locomotive #35, which was constructed in 1928. It is the last steam locomotive to operate on Long Island, having been retired in 1955. Donated by the LIRR to Nassau County, it was on exhibit at Salisbury Park (Eisenhower Park) for years, but was later moved to the Oyster Bay Railroad Museum.


G5s #35  Train # 543 at Willis Ave., Mineola 8/1954 Close-up Photo/Archive: Art Huneke

The Life and Times of Locomotive #35
Keystone Summer 2010 by Ben Jankowski
 

 

 

Photos/Archives: The Emery collection at SUNY Stony Brook,  the OBRM collection with the Craft family photos, Art Huneke, and Ben Jankowski.  Research/Author: Ben Jankowski 

 

 


G5s #35 on Yard Track at Osborne Ave, Riverhead  - View NE  7/1935 Archive: Dave Keller

 

 


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G5s #35 Wipers at Morris Park Shops - 1942
Archive: Ron Zinn
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G5s #35 at Morris Park Shops - 1948
Archive: Dave Keller
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G5s #35  Train #543 at Willis Ave., Mineola 8/1954  Photo/Archive: Art Huneke
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G5s # 35  Last Day of Steam backing onto Port Jefferson 
wye 10/16/1955 Archive: Dave Keller
LIRR News May 10, 1956 - LIRR Engine #35 upcoming move to Salisbury Park, East Meadow   Archive: Dave Morrison

Engine #35 Memo: Move to park  - May 7, 1956
Archive: Dave Morrison

  Engine #35 move to Westbury (team) siding week of
  May 13, 1956 from Morris Park yard
  May 21, 1956 loaded to trailers
  May 22, 1956 moved to Salisbury Park, East Meadow
  May 23, 1956 installation at Salisbury Park


Emery Westbury MP21-22 5/1958 Eng. #35 moved to Team Tracks 5/13/1956  location #7 Archive: Dave Keller


Engine #35 Mileage note Archive: Dave Morrison

Engine #35 Move to park - Wording on Plaque memo?
Archive: Dave Morrison

Westbury Engine #35 ramp crew to trailer 5/21/1956
Photo: Harry Glueck Archive: Richard Glueck

Westbury Engine #35 ease on to trailer 5/21/1956
Photo: Harry Glueck Archive: Richard Glueck

Westbury Engine #35 ramp to trailer 5/21/1956
Photo: Harry Glueck Archive: Richard Glueck
Eng. 35 was tricky, as a siding was added along with a slope just east of the Westbury station platform.  Dad (Harry Glueck) told me it was a very tenuous thing lowering 35 down the slope without brakes and with scheduled trains passing. The process involved a huge amount of earthwork. My father was only present at the Westbury move as "backup", if they got into trouble.  They didn't.  He took slides of the event and that's about it.  Richard Glueck

Engine #35 en-route to Salisbury Park  5/22/1956
Photo: Harry Glueck Archive: Richard Glueck

Engine #35 35 Gerosa Haulage Corp. hauler
5/22/1956 Photo: Harry Glueck Archive: Richard Glueck
G5s-35 En-route to Salisbury Park_1956_Huneke.jpg (80469 bytes)
G5s #35 En-route to Salisbury Park at Post Ave/Old Country Road 5/22/1956  Photo/Archive: Art Huneke

Engine #35 LIRailroader: Move to Salisbury Park
6/07/1956 Archive: Dave Morrison

Engine #35 LIRailroader: Move to Salisbury Park
6/07/1956 Archive: Dave Morrison

Engine #35 LIRailroader: Move to Salisbury Park
6/07/1956 Archive: Dave Morrison


Old No.35 Takes to Road
NY Times 5/22/1956 Archive: Dave Morrison


G5s #35 ex-location in Salisbury Park, East Meadow
Google maps 2022

G5s #35 Salisbury Park, East Meadow  c.1969
Photo/Archive: Richard Glueck

Gs  #35 Salisbury Park - LIST-NRHS painting 1969 Photo/Archive: Richard Glueck
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  G5s #35 at Eisenhower Park, East Meadow, NY 7/1970
Note: Salisbury Park become Eisenhower Park on 10/13/1969
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G5s #35 Eisenhower Memorial Park post card
Edward L. Conklin III photo 12/01/1970
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G5s #35 Eisenhower Memorial Park post card reverse
Note: Salisbury Park become Eisenhower Park on 10/13/1969

G5s #35 Salisbury Park disassembly  c.1976 Photos/Archive: Richard Glueck

Old Number 35 move to the Black River & Western Railroad, NJ - Long Island Press: February 20, 1976  Archive: Dave Morrison

Engine #35 LI Press article - 9/05/1976
Archive: Dave Morrison

Semaphore - June  1978 Eng #35
Move to Mitchel Field Siding letter

LIRR #35 and tender moved to Mitchel Field -1978
Photos/Archive: Tim Darnell

Engine #35 Mitchel Field 3/1984
Photo/Archive: William Mangahas

Engine #35 Mitchel Field 4/1987
Photo/Archive: William Mangahas

Engine #35 Mitchel Field 3/1992
Photo/Archive: William Mangahas
Semaphore - July 1978

Engine #35 move on 6/17/1978 Photo/Archive: Jim Gillian

Engine #35 move on 6/17/1978 Hempstead Tpke.,
(Route 24) Uniondale - View NE  Photo/Archive: Jim Gillian

Engine #35 Newsday - Locomotive Farewell 6/17/1978
Archive: Ben Jankowski

Engine #35 Newsday -7/29/2001 Archive: Dave Morrison
Historic LIRR G5 Locomotive - Antique & The Arts Weekly 5/10/2002 Archive: Dave Morrison

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LIRR #35 Poster Herb Oscar Anderson (Radio personality) Lou Duro (LIRR PR Dept.) c.1968  Collection: OBRM
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LIRR Public Affairs staff #35 9/17/1973 Archive: Dave Morrison

 

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Public Affairs staff #35 10/11/1970 Archive: Dave Morrison

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G5s #35 Broadside view

 

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OHIO EXPRESS Album covers while posing on LIRR #35
Archive: Gary Farkash
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On October 13, 1969 Salisbury Park, East Meadow, NY was rededicated as Dwight D. Eisenhower Memorial Park
FORM 19 ENGINE #35 ORDERS AT PD TOWER
Info/Archive: Dave Keller
Form 19-PD Tower-Loco  35 - 02-19-30 (Keller).jpg (135367 bytes)
 Form 19 PD Tower Loco 352/19/30
"Eng 35 run extra Patchogue to Y Cabin"
Form 19-PD Tower-Loco  35 - 02-20-44 (Keller).jpg (116231 bytes)
 Form 19 PD Tower Loco 35 2/20/44
"No. 4054 PRR Eng 779 to take Ringhouse siding 
Patchogue for no 4053 Eng 35"
Form 19-PD Tower-Loco  35 - 09-01-45 (Keller).jpg (132789 bytes)
Form 19 PD Tower Loco 35 9/01/45
"Eng 35 run Extra SK to WH. Eng 35 run Passenger Extra 
WH to PD. Extra 35 west at MO."
Form 19-PD Tower-Loco  35 - 09-08-42 (Keller).jpg (115966 bytes)
Form 19 PD Tower Loco 35 9/08/42
"No 38 Eng 35 meet Extra PRR 1179 west at VN"

 

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Form 19 PD Tower Loco 35 12/12/32
"No 33 has Eng 30 and no 21 Eng 35."
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Form 19 PD Tower Loco 35 7/27/42
"No 38 Eng 35 take siding at SK for no 9 PRR Eng 732."
Form 19-PD Tower-Loco 35 - 11-02-32 (Keller).jpg (155097 bytes)
Form 19 PD Tower Loco 35 11/02/32
"No 9 Eng 43 meet No 20 Eng 35 at Watermill."

Form 19-PD Tower-Loco 35 - 12-25-32 (Keller).jpg (153145 bytes)
Form 19 PD Tower Loco 35 12/25/32
"No. 4045 PRR Eng 8496 meet No. 10 Eng 35 at Patchogue. No. 4045 take siding. No. 4045 gets this order at Patchogue."

Telegraphic Call Letters:

"BO" Bellport
"VN" Brookhaven
"MO" Moriches
"PD" Patchogue
"Y" Sayville
"SK" Speonk
"WH" Westhampton

 

 


ENGINE #39

G5s #39  Last time at Oyster Bay with  #50 10/09/1955  Photo/Archive: Art Huneke
 LIRR G5s #39 horn in action!  Click to hear:
  G5s-39-West Yard-Port Jefferson-1934 (Keller) (2).jpg (107951 bytes)
 G5s #39 West Yard at Port Jefferson 1934 
Archive: Dave Keller
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G5s #39 Train #238  eastbound thru Hicksville 7/31/37 (Votava-Keller)
G5s-39-Freight-East at Queens Village, NY - 1947 (F. Zahn).jpg (91413 bytes)
 G5s #39 freight eastbound at Queens Village 1947  
Photo: Frank Zahn
G5s-39-Train - Cold Spring Harbor NY - 03-1953 (F. Zahn).jpg (118891 bytes)
G5s #39  Cold Spring Harbor  3/1953 Photo: Frank Zahn
G5s-39-Railfan Extra-WB -Calverton-Former Express House at R - View SE - 06-1955 (Keller).JPG (79540 bytes)
 G5s #39 Railfan Extra westbound at Calverton former Express House at right.  View SE 6/05/1955 Archive: Dave Keller
G5s-39-Railfan-Extra-Taking on Water-Eastbound-Ronkonkoma-06-05-55 (Keller).jpg (96384 bytes)
G5s #39 Railfan Extra eastbound taking on water at Ronkonkoma 6/05/55 Archive: Dave Keller
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G5s #39 Spun on Greenport turntable 6/05/55
Archive: Dave Keller 
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G5s #39 Spun on Greenport turntable 6/05/55 
Archive: Dave Keller 
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G5s #39 Railfan Extra at Greenport 6/05/55
Archive: Dave Keller

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G5s #39 Railfan Extra eastbound at Manorville 6/05/55
Archive: Dave Keller

G5s-39-Railfan Extra-WB Under Ronkonkoma Ave.-Ronkonkoma - 06-05-55 (e-Bay Scan).JPG (104715 bytes)
 G5s #39 Railfan Extra westbound under Ronkonkoma Ave., Ronkonkoma 6/05/1955 
G5s-39-Railfan Extra-Taking on Coal-Greenport, NY - 06-05-55 (Keller).jpg (98598 bytes)
 G5s #39 Railfan Extra taking on coal at Greenport 6/05/55 Archive: Dave Keller

G5s-39-Train-Roslyn NY - 08-1955 (F. Zahn).jpg (87589 bytes) 
G5s #39 Roslyn 8/1955  Photo: Frank Zahn

LIRR 38 Pennsylvania PRR Carriage Museum Stony Brook.jpg (145378 bytes)
G5s #38 at museum in Stony Brook post card
Photo: Edward L. Conklin III
LIRR 38 Pennsylvania PRR Carriage Museum Stony Brook back.jpg (31222 bytes)
G5s #38 at museum in Stony Brook post card back

LIRR G5S #39 MOVE

LIRR News end of May, 1956 - LIRR Engine #38 upcoming move to Stony Brook   Archive: Dave Morrison

Engine #38 (#39) move Friday June 1, 1956 from Holban Yard to Stony Brook
June 4, 1956 moved onto hauler
June 5, 1956 move to the Carriage House, Stony Brook Museum


Engine #38 Mileage note Archive: Dave Morrison
Harry Glueck, my Father, was a civil engineer in charge of this
aspect for the preservation. A number of comments have been made about the paint on #39. Before it left Holban Yard, he ordered it repainted in gloss black. Where the Keystone was concerned, apparently there was no PRR keystone red, so the paint crew used some red/orange they had available. Eng #35 was not repainted prior to the move, so she appears as she weathered, one year post retirement. The Carriage House Museum tried to keep  #39 painted, and at one time, did the keystone and builders plates in yellow. Richard Glueck

Eng #39 and tender arrival at Stony Brook prior to the relocation  move o the Carriage House, Stony Brook Museum

Eng #39 crib work ramp for removal from LIRR tracks was
about 800 feet west of Stony Brook Station. 6/04/1956

Eng #39 move - MOW workers building ramp

Eng #39 engine ramp move onto Gerosa flatbed truck

Eng #39 tender ramp move onto Gerosa flatbed truck

Engineer Harry Glueck in the Eng #39 cab
More about Harry Glueck

Eng #39 Leaving the site

Eng #39 tender rope move on the ramp

Eng #39 Gerosa flatbed truck loaded -Stony Brook Station in distant background

Eng #39 on the move North Country Rd. (State Rte. 25A)

Eng #39 tender on the move


The crib work for removal from LIRR tracks was about 800 feet west of Stony Brook station.  It was a siding already in place at the time, but quite old and very "weedy".  Richard Glueck


Eng #39 staged for its new hone at the Carriage House,
Stony Brook Museum 6/05/1956

Eng #39 move onto the new display track at  the
Carriage House, Stony Brook Museum 6/05/1956
LIRR 39-number-board-38_G5 Steam 4-6-0 Stony Brook Museum NY 8-24-58.jpg (84178 bytes)
 G5s #39 4-6-0 with number plate #38 at the Carriage House Museum in Stony Brook 8/24/1958


Juniata Shops G5s no.39 builder plate 6/1929 no.4207
Carriage House, Stony Brook Photo/Archive: Richard Glueck

The original builder's plates were not swapped out in 1956. The locomotive stood for decades wearing the #38 keystone, but also the #39 builder's plates. Richard Glueck


G5s #39 4-6-0 with number plate #38 at the Carriage House Museum in Stony Brook - DO NOT CLIMB sign 1972 Photos/Archive: Richard Glueck

G5s #39 tender at the Carriage House Museum in Stony Brook
7/06/1963 (Smith-Morrison)


LIRR G5s #39 - Tender Class 110P82a #46 Builder Plate -  Carriage House, Stony Brook
c. 1966  Photos/Archive: Richard Glueck
RoyCampanella_LIRR-Railroader.jpg (69645 bytes)
Archive: Don Fisher - RMLI  February 16, 1956

#39 Carriage House, Stony Brook 1973 wearing number plate #38 Photo/Archive: Richard Glueck

#39 firebox Carriage House, Stony Brook 1973
Photo/Archive: Richard Glueck
 

The picture (above center) is of Engine #39, not #38, at the Carriage House Museum in Stony Brook. The railroad gave #39's number plate to the famous Brooklyn Dodger catcher, no.39, Roy Campanella. He was in a car accident on Veterans Memorial Hwy and was paralyzed from the waist down.  The LIRR gave him the number plate from the #39 as an honor and his photo of the presentation of the plate by the LIRR appeared in the Long Island Railroader magazine (2/16/1956). When the engine was subsequently donated, they slapped on the plate for #38. Zillions of photographs, even postcards, were made with the  phony identity! #39 and #35 are the only engines preserved. Research: Art Single and Dave Keller 


The "Steam Up LIRR 39 Committee" has had an active search for the original #39 number board since 2014.  We've communicated with the L.A. Dodgers, the Campanella Foundation and Roy's daughter in California.  Everyone we've talked to denies ever knowing of the existence of the artifact.  We had to show his daughter the picture above to get her to understand it was once his. She handled his estate and the sale and bequest of his collections and she stated she never saw the number board throughout the auctions and house cleanings.  She thinks the number board might have been given away by her father when she was too small to remember.  It might have been so, but because the Brooklyn Dodgers retired Jersey Number 39 - that number board should have significant importance in the sports world and someone should be a proud owner!!  Oh well, maybe one day they will admit to having it.

    An interesting side note to our search is we "found" the original LIRR No. 38 number board that was placed on the locomotive before it was moved to Stony Brook.  The number board remained on the smoke box for twenty-five years while it was on exhibit at the Carriage House Museum.  The owner wants $5,000 for it and has no interest in making a donation to RMLI as he see's it as part of his retirement fund!!  LOL

    As to future restoration efforts and a No. 39 number board, with the assistance of PRRT&HS "Keystone" Editor, Chuck Blardone, we will have the same Pennsylvania foundry that reproduced the T-1 number board reproduce a new No. 39 when the time comes.  It will be an exact replica made to PRR specifications, thanks to the research and archives of the PRRT&HS and their members. 
Courtesy of Don Fisher - RMLI



G5s #39 Boiler at Strasburg, PA 8/14/2008


Quads are chalked out between specific points. A small area is ground down or sanded on both inside and outside of the boiler and ultrasonic testing is applied.  Thickness is read in decimal amounts, and the numbers are crunched to determine the thickness, of the steel according to FRA requirements.  So it's both gridding  and grinding. Richard Glueck


This is Eng 39's boiler in the Strasburg shops, with chalk marks from gridding and ultrasonic testing of the boiler steel thickness.
 

The stamps for a new boiler and replacement firebox are clearly evident, and you can see the newly fabricated firebox wrapper sheet, which solves the PRR weakness discovered in the K4s.

 

2010 Photos/Archive: Richard Glueck


#39 NEW BOILER JL Shops (Juniata Locomotive Shops) 6/27/1929 - 2010 Photo/Archive: Richard Glueck


#39 JS-Juniata Shops - 11/1946
2010 Photo/Archive: Richard Glueck

Eng #39 firebox wrapper outdoors 2019 at Strasburg  Photo/Archive: Richard Glueck

 


Eng #39crown sheet outdoors 2019 at Strasburg, PA.
Photo/Archive: Richard Glueck


Eng #39 outdoors 2019 at Strasburg 
Photo/Archive: Richard Glueck

FORM 19 ENGINE #39 ORDERS AT PD TOWER
Info/Archive: Dave Keller
Form 19-PD Tower-Loco 39 - 01-20-45 (1) (Keller).jpg (143190 bytes)
Form 19  Train Order #31 to Eng 117 at 11:44am 1/20/45 
"Eng 39 run Extra SK to WH. Eng 39 run Pass Extra WH to PD"
Form 19-PD Tower-Loco 39 - 01-20-45 (2) (Keller).jpg (120999 bytes)
Form 19  Train Order #42 PD  1/20/45  Loco 39 
2:01pm 1 mile east of PD
"Remain where you are until Extra 31 arrives"
Form 19-PD Tower-Loco 39 - 01-20-45 (3) (Keller).jpg (127197 bytes)
Form 19  Train order #44 to Extra 31 2:06pm 1/20/45
PD Tower Loco 39 
"Block occupied Extra  #31 east. Proceed under Stop Block Signal at PD to a point about 1 mile east of PD to assist Pass Extra 39 west to PD" 
Form 19-PD Tower-Loco 39 - 06-22-36 (Keller).jpg (147530 bytes)
Form 19 PD Tower Loco 39 6/22/36
"no 33 Eng 39 meet no 4 PRR Eng 3838 at Brookhaven" 
Form 19-PD Tower-Loco 39 - 07-23-30 (Keller).jpg (149294 bytes)
Form 19  PD Tower Loco 39 7/23/30
"no 19 Eng 39 has right over no 14 Amagansett to Patchogue"
Form 19-PD Tower-Loco 39 - 07-31-42 (Keller).jpg (135510 bytes)
Form 19 PD Tower Loco 39 7/31/42
"Eng 39 run Extra PD to ? Approach East end of Babylon yard prepared to stop Account Trains backing from yard"
Form 19-PD Tower-Loco 39 - 12-26-39 (Keller).jpg (127285 bytes)
Form 19 PD Tower Loco 39 12/26/39
"No 38 Eng 39 meet Extra 117 West at Mastic"

G5s #38 westbound at the junction of the  Creedmoor Branch, Floral Park c.1950

Here's the actual #38 pulling a train westbound over Plainfield Ave. into Floral Park.  The Creedmoor branch is curving off in the left foreground with the former
passing siding and house track curving off to the right directly in front of the photographer.  View is SE  c.1950.  Archive: Dave Keller