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The
Alco Fa-1's were rated at 1500 or 1600 HP, depending on when they were
built. For use as Head End Power, the LIRR removed the traction
motors and reduced the horse power (de-tuned the engines) because they
didn't need that much HP to run the generator for lighting, heating or
cooling the passenger cars. These are the "untouched" engines in
your email excerpt.
In
1978, the LIRR purchased engine-generator sets from Detroit Diesel. They
consisted of a small diesel engine, a generator and a control panel all
mounted on a single steel frame. The original Alco engine and
generator was removed from the FA body and the Detroit Diesel
"sled" dropped in. The sleds were fuel efficient and quiet
running. Info: Steve Rothaug
Detroit
Diesel sled being prep-ed for installation in the first F7 converted for
HEP use. Morris Park. Photo: Steve Rothaug
The
FA's that were converted over had Detroit Sleds placed in 1983. Units
that had the first HEP modification, but untouched were:
607
609 (scrapped in 1993)
611
612 (destroyed, and scrapped in 1993 due to a fire)
613
614
616
Units that had HEP modification were: Also, those 2 FA's were the first
ones to have the quieter HEP's.
615
617
The
quieter sleds were in fact placed in 1987 . 605,
and 606 were totally rebuilt to the point that where the original engine
room doors, and steps were, were taken out, and relocated. c.1983-84, or
so, such FA's as 605, 606 had the quieter engine.
In
the late 80's early 90's however, 615, and 617 had quieter engines
installed, or maybe mufflers because besides that, there was extra
grilling placed in front of the existing grille that was left for exhaust
when the HEP's were converted. 605 and 606 had the original grilles
around the headlight and original headlights removed, and plated over
using the vertical headlight in its place. Research: Neil Feldman
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| LIRR FA2 #600-609 |
Builder: ALCO-GE |
PC-6
ClassBuilt 1956* |
Notes:
1,2,6 |
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#600 Info/Photo: Tim Darnell
06/1979 Built 10/51 ex-PC 3102 |

#600
c.1984 Glendale
Photo: Roger McEnery
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#600 Kings Park 08/78
Archive: McEnery
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#600-WESTERN N.Y. HIST SOC., to become
NYC-1102
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#601 LI City
Photo: Steve Hoskins
Built 06/56 ex-L&N 317 |

#601 eastbound Haberman, LI
City 06/09/1978 Wm. J. Madden photo, Dave Keller archive |

#601
at SRR of NJ 03/25/1995 Photo: Glenn Rowe
Archive: Mcenery
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![601 Bridgeton NJ 6-06 [tad d].jpg (83128 bytes)](601_Bridgeton_NJ_6-06_tad_d_small.jpg)
#601 at Bridgeton, NJ 6-06.
Work will begin
on it when 602 is operational. Info/Photo: Tim
Darnell
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#602 Speonk
05/16/1979
Paul F. DeLuca photo, Dave Keller archive |

#602 Patchogue
Photo: Steve Hoskins
Built 05/56 ex-L&N 309
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#602 Hicksville c.1980
Photo: Len Torney
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![602 Bridgeton NJ 6-06 [tad d].jpg (88619 bytes)](602_Bridgeton_NJ_6-06_tad_d_small.jpg)
#602 at Bridgeton, NJ 6-06.
It just recently
got trucks from an Erie Mining
RS-11 with traction motors. Info/Photo: Tim
Darnell
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#603 Ronkonkoma
Photo: Steve Hoskins
Built 06/56 ex-L&N 315
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#603 Bay Shore 08-01-81

#603 05/08/2001
Photo: Roger McEnery
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![NYC FA Win Jct 11-11-05 [tad d] big.jpg (175924 bytes)](NYC_FA_Win_Jct_11-11-05_tad_d_big_small.jpg)
#603 at Winslow Jct., NJ. Work is being done a little at a time, it may
not be restored for quite some time. The NYC paint was applied for a
Railfan event a few years back. Info/Photo: Tim Darnell
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|

#604 1974 Oyster Bay
Photo:
Tim Darnell
Built 06/56 ex-L&N 314
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#604, #618 Morris Park 11-85 retired
Photo/Info: Tim Darnell
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#604 at the Illinois Railway Museum, 06/04/08
Photo: John McCluskey |
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| LIRR FA2 #605-610 |
Builder: ALCO-GE |
PC-7 Class 1951* |
Notes:
3,6,7 |

#605, #603 11/1979 Oyster Bay
Photo: Tim Darnell
Built 05/56 ex-L&N 310
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#161, #605 Montauk HEP Power Receptacle Photo: Jack Deasy
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#605 Greenport c. 1994
Photo: Al Castelli
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NASHVILLE & EASTERN
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#606
Ronkonkoma 10/29/78 Photo: Joe Quinn
Archive: McEnery
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#606 Bay Shore
Photo: Steve Hoskins
Arrived 06/56 ex-L&N 321
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#606 Smithtown
Photo: Len Torney
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#606 Huntington Wreck 08/26/88
Photo: Al Castelli 08/28/88

#606 08/88 Wrecked Photo: Bobby J. Kasza Scrapped
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#607 Photo: McEnery
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#607 Huntington
Photo: Steve Hoskins
Arrived 01/51 ex-WM 303

#607 at Queens Blvd 04/13/84 Photo: McEnery
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#607
Oyster Bay 01/19/92
Photo: Kevin Gulau |

#607-WRK, To private owner as WM-303
Photo: Lars Byrne, Elkins, West Virginia August 2001 |

#608 WM horn Mineola 05-76 Photo: Tim
Darnell
Built 01/51 ex-WM 304
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#608 Experimental Color Scheme LI
City 06-79
Archive: Dave Keller |

#608 at Sayville Renumbered to
#3100 Photo: John Fusto 03-88
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Renumbered #3100, 1991 provided HEP to the
C-1 bilevels before the FL9AC's arrived on property.
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza

#3100 Port Jefferson
Photo: M.G. Lovis 12/06/92
Archive: McEnery
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#609 Patchogue 09/18/77
Built 01/51 ex-WM 301
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#609
Morris Park
Photo: Steve Hoskins
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#609-SCRAPPED 10/1998
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza |
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#610 LI City
Photo: Steve Hoskins
Built 01/51 ex-WM 302
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#610 Smithtown Viaduct NW |

#610-TO WM HIST SOC.,
To become WM-302, stored
at Colonie, NY 06/10/2006
Info: Tim Darnell
Photo: Ross Mealey
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WM #302 to West Virginia Central.
0 7/12/08 Buckhannon, WV Collection: Pat Miller
Locomotives: BDLX 302 (FA-2) [BDLX (Big Dog Leasing) who is a division of PA
based scraper/rebuilder RMDI.]
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| LIRR FA1 #611-616 |
Builder: ALCO-GE |
PC-7 Class
1949 |
Notes: 4,6 |

#611 Mineola 1974
Photo: Tim Darnell
Built 02/49 ex-BN 4102
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#611 and train #4203 westbound at Medford 0 7/22/78 Wm. J. Madden photo, Dave Keller archive
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#611 Oyster Bay Branch vicinity of East Williston
Photo: Charles Freericks |

#611 at Bridgeton, NJ. Taken in 2005, it
looks basically the same. The gen-set was removed and the floor is being
modified to accommodate an Alco 251 engine. Work will begin when 601 and 602
are operational. Info/Photo: Tim Darnell
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#612 LI City
Photo: Steve Hoskins
Built 02/49 ex-BN 4100
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#612
Photo: R. McEnery
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FIRE, SCRAPPED 1993 |
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#613 1974 Oyster Bay
Photo:
Tim Darnell
Built 12/50 ex-BN 4120
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#613 St. James c.1980
Photo: Len Torney

#613
Oyster Bay 04/05/92
Photo: Kevin Gulau

#613 Port Jefferson 11/13/1994
Archive: McEnery
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#613
Morris Park
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza

#613 Shinnecock Canal
Photo: William Skeats
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SP&S 866 (ex-lirr #613) to Pacific Chapter
NRHS at the Brooklyn
Roundhouse, Portland, OR. To be restored as a display engine in SP&S
colors. Photo: Nicholas Todd Info: Tim Darnell |

#614 1974 Kings Park
Photo:
Tim Darnell
Built 02/49 ex-BN 4104

#614 West Glen Head 04/24/73
Photo: Norman Kohl
Archive: McEnery
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#614 Republic Airport Station 09/85
Photo: Joe Tischner |

#614 Photo: Frankie
Retired
Oct. 31, 1999
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![28 614 es Bridgeton 5-13-06 [tad d].jpg (73007 bytes)](28_614_es_Bridgeton_5-13-06_tad_d_small.jpg)
#614 at Bridgeton, NJ 6-06. After 611
is completed, 614 will be re-engined.
Info/Photo:
Tim Darnell

#614-611 roof/rear shot 04/24/04
Photo:
Tim Darnell
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#615 Morris Park
Photo: Steve Hoskins
Built 04/49 ex-BN 4116

#615 Photo: Bobby J. Kasza
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This may be the GE Apparatus Shop, N. Bergen, NJ after rebuild.
Photo: Henry Maywald, Archive: Al Castelli
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SEPTA #615, making a rare daylight run at
Yardley, PA SEPTA station.
Used for leaf trains. Also #622
Info/Photo:
Tim Darnell
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SEPTA #615 Has sandite tanks installed to combat slippery
rail/leaf trains. In service for four or five years. Location at Fox Chase. I believe they keep
#615 at Wayne Electric shops on the Reading side and #622 at Frazer shop on the western Main Line for the Pennsy side of SEPTA regional rail. Give SEPTA credit where its due for putting these units to good further use!
Info: MACTRAXX
Photo: John Regan, posted by Bob Andersen
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#616 Oyster Bay 06-76
Photo: Tim Darnell
Built 02/49 ex-BN 4108
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#616 at Southampton
07-1980
Photos: Jack Deasy |

#616 at Southampton
07-1980
Photos: Jack Deasy
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#616
Valley Jct. Quebec 08/83 Photo: John Scala
Archive: McEnery

NYGL #7375 Campbell Hall, NY
07/08/2008
Photo: Michael Foley
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| LIRR FA1 #617-618 |
Builder: ALCO-GE |
PC-6 Class
1947 |
Notes: 5,6 |

#617 at Greenport 05/07/1978
Photo: Mike Kubiak
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#617 Huntington
Photo: William Skeats
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#617 at Patchogue c. late 1980's
Photo: Steve Hoskins

#617 LI City
Photo: Steve Hoskins
Arrived 10/47 ex-PC 1333 |

#617 Danbury Museum,
CT. 05-07-2000
Photo: Jeff Lubchanshy
Photo: Steven
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#618 1974 Oyster Bay
Photo:
Tim Darnell
Built 05/47 ex-PC 1330
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#618
Montauk 07/05/82
Photo: Kevin Gulau |
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#618 CT Valley Museum RR Essex, CT
new NH #1401 paint scheme. I understand it is
going in for rebuilding soon, and will be painted another NH scheme!
Info/Photo:
Tim Darnell 1987
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| LIRR F-9A, F-7As
#619-623 |
Builder:
EMD |
PC-7 Class
1950+ |
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#619 St. James c.1980
Photo: Len Torney
Built 01/54 ex-MILW 126A:2
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#619 Mineola 01/27/1984
Archive/Photo: Kevin Gulau

#619 F-9A Morris Park
10/28/89
Photo: Al Castelli
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#619 Valley Stream 03-80
Archive: McEnery

#619 F-9AWest Hempstead
Photo: Steve Hoskins
A diesel in electrified territory and at a station where diesel trains
NEVER ran, it’s a good chance this was a railfan extra . Info: Dave
Keller |
SEMINOLE GULF RR (FL) EXCURSION
TRAINS #501 09/2003 Info: Tim Darnell
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#620 F-7A Oyster Bay 08/01/82
Photo: Al Castelli
Built 12/50 ex-MILW 85A:2
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#620 F-7A Oyster Bay 10/06/1985
Photo: Al Castelli

#620 F-7A Photo: McEnery
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Williamette &
Pacific, Albany, OR then scrapped 2005. Info: Tim Darnell
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#621 Mill Neck 05/1988
Photo: Kevin Gulau
F-7A Built 08/52 ex-B&O 4599
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#621 Port Jefferson 1992
Photo: Joe Saullo |

#621 Oyster Bay 08/1982 Recently
outshoped.
Photo/Info: Tim Darnell
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SEMINOLE GULF RR
(FL) EXCURSION
TRAINS #502 2001 Info: Tim Darnell
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#622 F-7A Oyster Bay 1984
Built 11/50 ex-B&O #4524
Photo: Tim Darnell
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#622 LIST Fantrip in CT. 1966
Photo: Joe Saullo
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#622 Port Jefferson 02/07/1993
Photo: M. Louis
Archive: Leah Mcenery

B&O
#4535 (parts), B&O #4524 (LIRR #622) Morris Park 03/1981
Photo: Tim Darnell |

To SEPTA
#622, At Hydro Power in Bridgeton, NJ for salvage of the HEP unit in 2000.
Moved to SEPTA in April 2001 for gel train service. Usually stored in
Frazer, PA. Info: Al Castelli
Photo: Tim Darnell at SEPTA Yard, Yardley,
PA 03/07 on gel
run
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ex-B&O #4535 c.1982 F-7A at Marshalltown, Iowa
prior to
move to LIRR as #623
Photo: Jim Sands 1982
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#623 F-7A Arrived 03/83 ex-B&O 4535 Was to be
converted in 1983 but never rebuilt by LIRR.
Shell reportedly scrapped by LIRR, never put into service.
Info: Al Castelli
Photo: 03/1983 Tim Darnell at Richmond Hill, note M-1 trucks
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| (1) 600 originally New York
Central 1102 built in 1951, then Penn Central 1302, then LIRR 600 03/5/74. |
| (2) 601-606 were originally
Louisville & Nashville 317, 309, 315, 314, 310, 321; then LIRR 601-606
(5/6/71, 6/30/71, 8/4/71, 9/7/71 |
| (3) 607-610 were originally
Western Maryland 303-304, 301-302; then LIRR 607-610 (5/2/72, 6/19/72,
9/23/72, 10/20/72). |
| (4) 611-814 were originally
Spokane, Portland & Seattle 856A2, 856A1,866A1, 858Al; then SP&S 857, 856,
866, 858; then Burlington Northern 4102, 4100, 4120, 4iW; then LIRR 611-614
(8/7/72, 11/27/72, 2/14/73, 3/7/73). 614 was originally Great Northern 442A,
then SP&S 864A1 (1/50), then SP&S 864, then BN 4120, then LIRR 615
(4/18/73). 616 was originally SP&S 860A1, then SP&S 880, then BN 4108, then
LIRR 616 (7/28/73), then LIRR 616 being sold to NY&GL 7375 (07/2008). |
(5) 617-618 were originally New
York, New Haven & Hartford 0428, 0401; then PCT 1333, 1330; then LIRR
617-618
(4/27/74 - 6/16/74). |
| (6) LIRR bought a bunch of
them, removed the traction motors and set up the engines so they would
generate HEP for converted former MU cars to be used in push-pull service.
Motive power to make the trains move was usually GP38-2 or MP15AC, though in
the early days they still had some C-420's around. In later years, some of
the LIRR FA's were rebuilt and the original Alco 244 engines/generators were
removed. They were replaced by a "sled" -- a removeable engine/generator set
-- with a smaller truck-type Detroit Diesel to drive the generator. |
| (7)
605 at Montauk: In the yards and still visible in Speonk and Montauk along with a few other diesel
yards, they had stationary "hotel" power connections where they used to plug in the cars.
The standby power receptacles, with a fresh coat of yellow paint, are visible in
this photos at Montauk. They were used to plug in the old Parlors in Montauk. Not the "Sunrise Fleet" ones, the earlier heavyweights and their successors. People would spend the night in those cars from what I remember so stand-by power was necessary. In the Storage Yard, they did have 600VDC to plug in consists when needed. It wasn't so much to save on fuel or noise, but to not have to have the inconvenience of having a P-engine of Power Pack to supply power.
Info: Jack Deasy |