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LIRR #152 Builder Plate

The LIRR MP15-AC 
Engine Roster 

 

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LIRR #163 06/11/2007 
Photo: Joe Gregory

 

By the early 1970's , the LIRR was looking to replace the first L1's (C420's), RS1's, Rs3's, and S1's. ALCO was not building engines in the US and the carrier was not buying MLW engines from Canada . The serious option considered was GE and the UB18's . However, when the new Master Mechanic came from the Milwaukee Road (which just ordered MP 15's), the order was placed for MP15's and the GP38's.

The class "E15's" were mostly used on the Oyster Bay branch. Rarely were they used as power to KO ( Ronkonkoma ), but were used on the weekday scoot to Greenport (GY). There were times they were used as a second unit to Pt. Jeff and Montauk on heavier trains, but this was not the norm as the heavier Montauk trains rated two E20's (GP38's)

In the later years, the LIRR used them as HEP units (600 VDC HEP, another LIRR oddity). OB trains would have one at one end running HEP, the other pulling the train, or a GP-38-2 at the other end. The HEP unit would idle at notch 3 or so I think, and not supply traction power. This lasted until the bi-levels came on. Bizzare but it worked and IIRC, the LIRR saved good amount of $ doing it...

The Chief Mechanical Officer at the time selected them. He felt, as most Long Island railroaders at the time believed, that a small road switcher would be the best choice for our operation. The short-haul-quick-turnaround type of scheduling was ideal for a road switcher. The unit would accelerate quickly and had a top speed that could keep our schedules.

They were also very low cost and inexpensive to operate, which was quite important at the time they were purchased. The Milwaukee Road had lots favorable experience with EMD products and the CMO had been a former Milwaukee Road employee.

History would show that they were a good selection for the job and an excellent replacement for the RS-3's.

As was stated above, the LIRR had a long history with ALCO products, but they were unfortunately no longer available. Had they been, then the LI would have most likely remained an ALCO customer.  LI Tool

 

LIRR #150-172 Class: E-15, Builder: GM EMD Order #766043 23 units, Serial Numbers: #766043-1 to 23, Model: MP15-AC,  HP: 1,500, Trucks:  2-2  Effort:  65,750  Weight: 263,000  Date: 03/04/1977  30 years in service.

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LIRR #150  Jamaica 1997 
Photo: David Pirmann

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Oyster Bay

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LIRR #151 Oyster Bay 03-83 
Photo: John Volpi
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#151 and #156 Pine Aire Siding 12-2001 Photo: John Volpi

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Maspeth 07-12-2006 
Photo: John McCluskey
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Riverhead 01-29-07
Photo: Al Castelli

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Fresh Pond 06-20-2007 
Photo: Joe Gregory
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NYA #151, #155 Pine Aire 03-30-07 Photo: William Skeats
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LIRR #152 Oyster Bay 09-14-86 
Photo: Al Castelli

 

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West Islip
05-03-2005 
Photo: Kevin Katta
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LIRR #153 Smithtown Ash Train Westbound 
Photo: Mike Koehler c.1985

 

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Hicksville 01-18-86
Photo: Al Castelli

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LIRR #153 Photo: Mike Koehler
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Southampton 11-14-86
Photo: Al Castelli

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Speonk 05-19-05 rail train
Photo William Skeats

 

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LIRR #153 Mitchel Field 3-2007 
Photo: Joe Gregory

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LIRR #
153 Smithtown 06/07/06
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LIRR #154
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LIRR #154 Morris Park  c.1990s
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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Wellwood Ave 01-05-06
Photo: Al Castelli

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LI City 03-20-2006 
Photo: John McCluskey

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LI City 03-20-2006 
Photo: John McCluskey
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LIRR #154 Smithtown 
Photo: Mike Koehler
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Farmingdale 03-21-92
Photo: Al Castelli
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LIRR #155  Fresh Pond light 
move WB 1984
Photo: Mike Koehler
Transferred to NYA in the late 90's wearing blue and white.  See #156
LIRR #155 was painted in NYA green almost immediately after take over.
Info: John Volpi 
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Fresh Pond 06-20-2007 
Photo: Joe Gregory
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LIRR #156 Farmingdale 12-08-85 
Photo: Al Castelli

 

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LIRR #
156 Smithtown 02-03-03 
with NYA logo. Photo: John Volpi 
 

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LIRR #
156 Pine Aire siding 12-2001 
NYA logo.  Out of Service about 2 years.  Photo/Info: John Volpi

Transferred to NYA in the late 90's wearing blue and white with NYA logo applied. Perhaps first unit with new logo.  Info: John Volpi

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Maspeth 03-13-2006
Photo: John McCluskey

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Fresh Pond 06-20-2007 
Photo: Joe Gregory

 

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LIRR #157  Hicksville 04-05-86
Photo: Al Castelli


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LIRR #157 Morris Park  c.1990s
Photo: Bobby Kasza

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Hicksville 04-05-86
Photo: Al Castelli

The yard is the one on West John St, west of the Hicksville station and across from Nassau County's Cantiague Park. NYAR has it now & it's where the Twin Forks ex-PRR LIRR steel hack is. Behind the loco is the mainline, west is to the right. The track I'm standing on and the one to the right lead into the yard behind me. The loco is on a siding that runs east. Info: Al Castelli  Map 1966

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Farmingdale(?) Central branch drilling freight Photo: Mike Koehler 

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Farmingdale(?) Central branch drilling freight Photo: Mike Koehler 

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LI City 03-20-2006 
Photo: John McCluskey  

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Wellwood Ave 08-11-2007 
Photo: Joe Gregory
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LIRR #158 Smithown
Photo: Mike Koehler
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Farmingdale 03-02-86 
Photo: Al Castelli
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Smithtown 07-21-2006 
Photo: John Volpi 
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Ronkonkoma #158, #157 and #166 Ballast Train
05-09-07
Photo: William Skeats
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LIRR #159  Farmingdale 08-24-86
Photo: Al Castelli

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Smithtown Salt Train  Eastbound
Photo: Mike Koehler
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East of Smithtown 05-29-85 
Photo: John Volpi

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NYA #159 Smithtown 5-11-2001 
Photo: John Volpi

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NYA #159 Prima Asphalt 11-13-04
 Photo: John Volpi

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NYA #159 Bay Ridge Branch 06-02-07 Photo: Joe Tischner

Transferred to NYA in the late 90's wearing blue and white. Info: John Volpi

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NYA #159 Jamaica Station 08-03-2007 Photo: Adam Moreira

 

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LIRR #160  Holban c1970's
Photo: Steve Hoskins
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Fresh Pond
Photo: Mike Koehler
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LI City 03-20-2006 
Photo: John McCluskey
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Farewell to the M1Fantrip
11-04-06
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LIRR #161 Morris Park switching Sunrise Fleet parlor #2021 c.1970's Photo/Info:Tim Darnell
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Ronkonkoma 10-22-84
Photo: John Volpi
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LIRR #161 Morris Park  c.1990s
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LI City 03-20-2006 
Photo: John McCluskey
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LIRR #161 Morris Park  c.1990s
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #162 Port Jefferson
President's Day 02-22-2001 
Photo: John Volpi
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LIRR #162 at Bone Yard Morris Park
09/2006 Not in service  on the dead line. Info/Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #163 Morris Park  c.1990s
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #163 Smithtown Ash Train WB Photo: Mike Koehler
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Rego Park 03-20-2006 
Photo: John McCluskey

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Rego Park 03-20-2006 
Photo: John McCluskey

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LI City 03-20-2006 
Photo: John McCluskey


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LIRR #164 Ash Train 
Photo: Mike Koehler
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LIRR #164 view west Bordan Ave, LI City 09/07 Photo: Joe Gregory
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LIRR #165 Mineola c1970's
Photo: Steve Hoskins

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Rego Park 03-13-2006 
Photo: John McCluskey
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LIRR #166 Farmingdale 08-24-86
Photo: Al Castelli
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LI City LIST Trip 1993
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St. James 05-84
Photo: John Volpi
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LIRR #166 Ronkonkoma 12-14-03
Photo: John Volpi
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LIRR #167 Morris Park 09/2002
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza

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Smithtown work train c.1983
Photo: Mike Koehler

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Morris Park 10/2002
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza

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Morris Park 10/2002
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza

Experimental Scheme Info: John Volpi
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LIRR #167
Wellwood Siding 12-20-03 Photo: John Volpi  Latest scheme

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LIRR #168 Greenport 07-1980. Consist is the Sunday evening train from Greenport to Jamaica. Parlor observation LIRR 2082 ASHAROKEN is immediately behind the locomotive. 
Photo/Info: Jack Deasy
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Ronkonkoma c1979
Photo: Len Torney 

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Ronkonkoma c1979
Photo: Len Torney
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Huntington 08-19-1984 
Photo: John Volpi
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Morris Park 04/07/2007
Photo:
Dietrich Ryan

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Heading out of the siding, MP15AC #168 leads a ballast train eastbound. Lindenhurst,  Wellwood Ave. siding 11/11/2004 Photo: Lester Zmudzinski

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LIRR #169 Hillside c1970's
Photo: Steve Hoskins


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As newly delivered, no M on the nose...

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LI City Yard A c1970's
Photo: Steve Hoskins

  

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LIRR #169, #158 Patchogue 01/07/1990 Alan Tillotson photo, Dave Keller archive
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LIRR #169 Bone Yard Morris Park 
09/2006 Photo: Bobby Kasza

 

 

 

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LIRR #170 Smithtown
Photo: Mike Koehler
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Ronkonkoma 05-85 
Photo: John Volpi

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LIRR #170P 
Photo: Mike Koehler
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Rriverdale, IL delivery 05/01/1977
Photo: Kim Piersol

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LIRR #171 Smithtown
Photo:  Mike Koehler

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171P Ronkonkoma c.1985
Photo: Mike Koehler

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Oyster Bay 07-82
Photo: John Volpi

 

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Greenport 11-13-97
 Photo: William Skeats
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Smithtown 08-28-2003
Photo: John Volpi

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Morris Park c. mid-1990's
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza
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LIRR #172 Morris Park  c.1990s
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #172-#106  Morris Park  c.1990s
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #172P Amagansett  11-14-86
Photo: Al Castelli
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#172-#156 Oyster Bay 10-94 
Photo: John Volpi
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LI City 03-20-2006
Photo: John McCluskey
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Harold Pprotect Engine
09-12-06 Photo: Bobby Kasza


Notes on the MP15s with "P" numbers:
Some MP15ac's were converted to a power cab option and numbered with a "P" before or after the road number. This option allowed the throttle to be set to an equivalent of notch 6 to turn the generator at a steady speed. Energy was channeled to a 4-point jumper to the train. These conversions allowed these engines to supplement the Alco &  EMD cab unit power cabs which had problems in cold weather. These operated in push-pull service with another MP15ac or a GP38-2 as the motive power.
 
Dates of the conversions:
#171 was first unit, converted to full power cab configuration on 1/19/82, then to the option in 2/82
#170 in 1/82
#169, #172 in 2/82
These four units were surplus power from freight service.
 
The following are in number order:
#161 in 4/84
#162 in 2/84
#163 in 11/83
#164 in 10/83
#165 in 10/83
#166 in 10/83
#167 in 9/83
#168 in 8/83 
#167 had "hump" (creeper) control, but it was removed when given the power cab option and put into #150.
#168 had Microphor L.T.P. (Low Temperature Protection) unit installed in 3/83.

Source: Diesels of the Sunrise Trail by: John Scala
Notes thanks to: Al Castelli