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LIRR #152 Builder Plate

 

The LIRR MP15-AC Engine Roster

 

Photo: LIRR MP15-AC cab #157 - 9/2023 Photo/Archive: Jerry Carmine

By the early 1970's , the LIRR was looking to replace the first L1's (C420's), RS1's, Rs3's, and S1's. ALCO was not building engines in the US and the carrier was not buying MLW engines from Canada . The serious option considered was GE and the UB18's . However, when the new Master Mechanic came from the Milwaukee Road (which just ordered MP 15's), the order was placed for MP15's and the GP38's.

The class "E15's" were mostly used on the Oyster Bay branch. Rarely were they used as power to KO ( Ronkonkoma ), but were used on the weekday scoot to Greenport (GY). There were times they were used as a second unit to Pt. Jeff and Montauk on heavier trains, but this was not the norm as the heavier Montauk trains rated two E20's (GP38's)

In the later years, the LIRR used them as HEP units (600 VDC HEP, another LIRR oddity). OB trains would have one at one end running HEP, the other pulling the train, or a GP-38-2 at the other end. The HEP unit would idle at notch 3 or so I think, and not supply traction power. This lasted until the bi-levels came on. Bizzare but it worked and IIRC, the LIRR saved good amount of $ doing it...

The Chief Mechanical Officer at the time selected them. He felt, as most Long Island railroaders at the time believed, that a small road switcher would be the best choice for our operation. The short-haul-quick-turnaround type of scheduling was ideal for a road switcher. The unit would accelerate quickly and had a top speed that could keep our schedules.

They were also very low cost and inexpensive to operate, which was quite important at the time they were purchased. The Milwaukee Road had lots favorable experience with EMD products and the CMO had been a former Milwaukee Road employee.  History would show that they were a good selection for the job and an excellent replacement for the RS-3's.

As stated above, the LIRR had a long history with ALCO products, but they were unfortunately no longer available. Had they been, then the LI would have most likely remained an ALCO customer.  LI Tool


LIRR #150-172 Class: E-15, Builder: GM EMD Order #766043 23 units, Serial Numbers: #766043-1 to 23, Model: MP15-AC,  HP: 1,500, Trucks:  2-2  Effort:  65,750  Weight: 263,000 
Delivery Date: 3/04/1977  30 years in service.
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LIRR #150  Jamaica 1997 
Photo: David Pirmann
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LIRR #150 Oyster Bay
 
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LIRR #151 Oyster Bay 3/1983 
Photo: John Volpi
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#151 and #156 Pine Aire Siding 12/2001
Photo: John Volpi

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Maspeth 7/12/2006 
Photo: John McCluskey
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Riverhead 1/29/2007
Photo: Al Castelli

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NYA #151, #155 Pine Aire 3/30/2007
Photo: William Skeats
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Fresh Pond 6/20/2007 
Photo: Joe Gregory
 
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LIRR #152 Oyster Bay 9/14/1986 
Photo: Al Castelli

 

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LIRR #152-150 West Islip 5/03/2005 
Photo: Kevin Katta

LIRR #152 9/22/2003
Photo/Archive: Joe Tischner
 
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LIRR #153 Smithtown Ash Train Westbound 
Photo: Mike Koehler c.1985

 

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Hicksville 1/18/1986
Photo: Al Castelli

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LIRR #153 Photo: Mike Koehler
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Southampton 11/14/1986
Photo: Al Castelli

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Speonk 5/19/2005 rail train
Photo William Skeats

 

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LIRR #153 Mitchel Field 3/2007 
Photo: Joe Gregory

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LIRR #153 Smithtown 6/07/2006
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LIRR #154



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LIRR #154 Smithtown 
Photo: Mike Koehler

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LIRR #154 Morris Park  c.1990's
Photo: Bobby Kasza

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Farmingdale 3/21/1992
Photo: Al Castelli

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Wellwood Ave 1/05/2006
Photo: Al Castelli

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LI City 3/20/2006 
Photo: John McCluskey


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LI City 3/20/2006 
Photo: John McCluskey

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Fresh Pond Yard #154 in new paint 
10/22/2017 Photo:  Greg Grice


LIRR new GM#155 - Engineer Dennis P. Demitry Photo: Ziel house in Water Mill 4/29/1977
Archive: Queens Public Library
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LIRR #155  Fresh Pond light 
move westbound 1984
Photo: Mike Koehler
Transferred to NYA in the late 90's wearing blue and white.  See #156 LIRR #155 was painted in NYA green almost immediately after take over.
Info: John Volpi 
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Fresh Pond 6/20/2007 
Photo: Joe Gregory
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LIRR #156 Farmingdale 12/08/1985 
Photo: Al Castelli

 

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LIRR #156 Smithtown 2/03/2003 
with NYA logo. Photo: John Volpi 
 

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LIRR #156 Pine Aire siding 12/2001 NYA logo.  Out of Service about 2 years.  Photo/Info: John Volpi

Transferred to NYA in the late 90's wearing blue and white with NYA logo applied. Perhaps first unit with new logo.  Info: John Volpi

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Maspeth 3/13/2006
Photo: John McCluskey

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Fresh Pond 6/20/2007 
Photo: Joe Gregory

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LIRR #157  Hicksville 4/05/1986
Photo: Al Castelli


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LIRR #157 Morris Park  c.1990's
Photo: Bobby Kasza

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Hicksville # 157 4/05/1986
Photo: Al Castelli

The yard is the one on West John St, west of the Hicksville station and across from Nassau County's Cantiague Park.
NYAR has it now & it's where the Twin Forks ex-PRR LIRR steel hack is. Behind the loco is the mainline, west is to the right. The track I'm standing on and the one to the right lead into the yard behind me. The loco is on a siding that runs east. Info: Al Castelli 

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Farmingdale(?) Central branch #157
drilling freight Photo: Mike Koehler
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LI City 3/20/2006 
Photo: John McCluskey  

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Wellwood Ave 8/11/2007 
Photo: Joe Gregory
 
New #158 with EMD visible on the knuckle
Morris Park 3/1977

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Farmingdale #158 3/02/1986 
Photo: Al Castelli

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LIRR #158 Smithtown
Photo: Mike Koehler
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Smithtown #158 7/21/2006 
Photo: John Volpi 
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Ronkonkoma #158, #157 and #166
Ballast Train 5/09/2007
Photo: William Skeats
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LIRR #159  Farmingdale 8/24/1986
Photo: Al Castelli

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Smithtown Salt Train eastbound
Photo: Mike Koehler
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East of Smithtown 5/29/1985 
Photo: John Volpi

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NYA #159 Smithtown 5/11/2001 
Photo: John Volpi

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NYA #159 Prima Asphalt 11/13/2004
 Photo: John Volpi

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NYA #159 Bay Ridge Branch 6/02/2007
Photo: Joe Tischner

Transferred to NYA in the late 90's wearing blue and white. Info: John Volpi

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NYA #159 Jamaica Station 8/03/2007
Photo: Adam Moreira

 

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LIRR #160  Holban c.1970's
Photo: Steve Hoskins
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Fresh Pond
Photo: Mike Koehler
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LI City 3/20/2006 
Photo: John McCluskey
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Farewell to the M1Fantrip
11/04/2006
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LIRR #161 Morris Park switching Sunrise Fleet parlor #2021 c.1970's Photo/Info: Tim Darnell
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Ronkonkoma 10/22/1984
Photo: John Volpi
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LIRR #161 Morris Park  c.1990s
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LI City 3/20/2006 
Photo: John McCluskey
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LIRR #161 Morris Park  c.1990s
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #162 Port Jefferson
President's Day 2/22/2001 
Photo: John Volpi
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LIRR #162 at Bone Yard Morris Park
9/2006 Not in service on the dead line.
Info/Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #163 Morris Park  c.1990's
Photo: Bobby Kasza

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LIRR #163 Smithtown Ash Train WB
Photo: Mike Koehler

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LIRR #163 6/11/2007 
Photo: Joe Gregory
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Rego Park 3/20/2006 
Photo: John McCluskey

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Rego Park 3/20/2006
Photo: John McCluskey

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LI City 3/20/2006
Photo: John McCluskey


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LIRR #164 Ash Train 
Photo: Mike Koehler
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LIRR #164 view west Borden Ave, LI City 9/2007
Photo: Joe Gregory
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LIRR #165 Mineola c.1970's
Photo: Steve Hoskins
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Rego Park 3/13/2006 
Photo: John McCluskey
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LIRR #166 Farmingdale 8/24/1986
Photo: Al Castelli
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LI City LIST Trip 1993
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St. James 5/1984
Photo: John Volpi
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LIRR #166 Ronkonkoma 12/14/2003
Photo: John Volpi
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LIRR #167 Morris Park 9/2002
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza

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Smithtown work train c.1983
Photo: Mike Koehler

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Morris Park 10/2002
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza

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Morris Park 10/2002
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza

Experimental Scheme Info: John Volpi
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LIRR #167 Wellwood Siding 12/20/2003
Photo: John Volpi  Latest scheme

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LIRR #168 Greenport 7/1980. Consist is the Sunday evening train from Greenport to Jamaica. Parlor observation LIRR 2082 ASHAROKEN is immediately behind the locomotive. 
Photo/Info: Jack Deasy
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Ronkonkoma c.1979
Photo: Len Torney 

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Ronkonkoma c.1979
Photo: Len Torney
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Huntington 8/19/1984 
Photo: John Volpi
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Morris Park 4/07/2007
Photo: Dietrich Ryan

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Heading out of the siding, MP15AC #168 leads a ballast train eastbound. Lindenhurst,  Wellwood Ave. siding 11/11/2004 Photo: Lester Zmudzinski

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LIRR #169 Hillside c1970's
Photo: Steve Hoskins


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As newly delivered, no M on the nose...

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LI City Yard A c1970's
Photo: Steve Hoskins

  

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LIRR #169, #158 Patchogue 1/07/1990
Alan Tillotson photo, Dave Keller archive
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LIRR #169 Bone Yard Morris Park 
9/2006 Photo: Bobby Kasza

 

 

 

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LIRR #170 Smithtown
Photo: Mike Koehler
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Ronkonkoma 5/1985 
Photo: John Volpi

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LIRR #170P **
Photo: Mike Koehler
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Riverdale, IL delivery 5/01/1977
Photo: Kim Piersol

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#170 at St. James10/08/2003
Photo: John Volpi

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LIRR #171 Smithtown
Photo:  Mike Koehler

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171P Ronkonkoma c.1985
Photo: Mike Koehler

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Oyster Bay 7/1982
Photo: John Volpi

 

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Greenport 11/13/1997
 Photo: William Skeats
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Smithtown 8/28/2003
Photo: John Volpi

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Morris Park c. mid-1990's
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza
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LIRR #172 Morris Park  c.1990's
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #172-#106  Morris Park  c.1990's
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #172P Amagansett  11/14/1986
Photo: Al Castelli
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#172-#156 Oyster Bay 10/1994 
Photo: John Volpi
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LI City 3/20/2006
Photo: John McCluskey
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Harold Pprotect Engine
9/12/2006 Photo: Bobby Kasza


**Notes on the MP15s with "P" numbers:
Some MP15ac's were converted to a power cab option and numbered with a "P" before or after the road number. This option allowed the throttle to be set to an equivalent of notch 6 to turn the generator at a steady speed. Energy was channeled to a 4-point jumper to the train. These conversions allowed these engines to supplement the Alco &  EMD cab unit power cabs which had problems in cold weather. These operated in push-pull service with another MP15ac or a GP38-2 as the motive power.
 
Dates of the conversions:
#171 was first unit, converted to full power cab configuration on 1/19/82, then to the option in 2/82
#170 in 1/82
#169, #172 in 2/82
These four units were surplus power from freight service.
 
The following are in number order:
#161 in 4/84
#162 in 2/84
#163 in 11/83
#164 in 10/83
#165 in 10/83
#166 in 10/83
#167 in 9/83
#168 in 8/83 
#167 had "hump" (creeper) control, but it was removed when given the power cab option and put into #150.
#168 had Microphor L.T.P. (Low Temperature Protection) unit installed in 3/83.

Source: Diesels of the Sunrise Trail by: John Scala
Notes thanks to: Al Castelli