LIRR #152 Builder Plate
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The
LIRR MP15-AC Engine Roster
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Photo:
LIRR MP15-AC cab #157 - 9/2023 Photo/Archive: Jerry Carmine
By the
early 1970's , the LIRR was looking to replace the first L1's (C420's),
RS1's, Rs3's, and S1's. ALCO was not building engines in the
US
and the carrier was not buying MLW engines from
Canada
. The serious option considered was GE and the UB18's . However, when the
new Master Mechanic came from the
Milwaukee Road
(which just ordered MP 15's), the order was placed for MP15's and the
GP38's.
The class "E15's" were mostly used on the
Oyster Bay
branch. Rarely were they used as power to KO (
Ronkonkoma
), but were used on the weekday scoot to Greenport (GY). There were times
they were used as a second unit to Pt. Jeff and Montauk on heavier trains,
but this was not the norm as the heavier Montauk trains rated two E20's
(GP38's)
In the
later years, the LIRR used them as HEP units (600 VDC HEP, another LIRR
oddity).
OB
trains would have one at one end running HEP, the other pulling the train,
or a GP-38-2 at the other end. The HEP unit would idle at notch 3 or so I
think, and not supply traction power. This lasted until the bi-levels came
on. Bizzare but it worked and IIRC, the LIRR saved good amount of $ doing
it...
The Chief
Mechanical Officer at the time selected them. He felt, as most
Long Island
railroaders at the time believed, that a small road switcher would be the
best choice for our operation. The short-haul-quick-turnaround type of
scheduling was ideal for a road switcher. The unit would accelerate quickly
and had a top speed that could keep our schedules.
They were also very low cost and inexpensive to operate, which was quite
important at the time they were purchased. The
Milwaukee Road
had lots favorable experience with EMD products and the CMO had been a
former
Milwaukee Road
employee.
History would show that they were a good selection for the job and an
excellent replacement for the RS-3's.
As stated above, the LIRR had a long history with ALCO products, but
they were unfortunately no longer available. Had they been, then the LI
would have most likely remained an ALCO customer. LI Tool
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LIRR #150-172 Class:
E-15, Builder: GM EMD Order #766043 23 units, Serial Numbers: #766043-1 to
23, Model: MP15-AC, HP:
1,500,
Trucks: 2-2 Effort: 65,750 Weight: 263,000
Delivery Date: 3/04/1977 30 years in service.
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LIRR #150 Jamaica
1997
Photo: David Pirmann
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LIRR #150 Oyster Bay |
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LIRR #151 Oyster Bay 3/1983
Photo: John Volpi
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#151 and #156 Pine Aire Siding 12/2001
Photo: John Volpi
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Maspeth 7/12/2006
Photo: John McCluskey
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Riverhead 1/29/2007
Photo: Al Castelli
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NYA #151,
#155 Pine Aire 3/30/2007
Photo: William Skeats
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Fresh
Pond 6/20/2007
Photo: Joe Gregory
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LIRR #152 Oyster Bay 9/14/1986
Photo: Al Castelli
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LIRR #152-150 West Islip 5/03/2005
Photo: Kevin Katta
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LIRR #152 9/22/2003
Photo/Archive: Joe Tischner |
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LIRR #153 Smithtown Ash Train Westbound
Photo: Mike Koehler c.1985
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Hicksville 1/18/1986
Photo: Al Castelli
LIRR #153
Photo: Mike Koehler
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Southampton 11/14/1986
Photo: Al Castelli
Speonk 5/19/2005 rail
train
Photo William Skeats
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LIRR #153 Mitchel Field 3/2007
Photo: Joe Gregory
LIRR #153 Smithtown 6/07/2006
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LIRR #154
LIRR #154 Smithtown
Photo: Mike Koehler
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LIRR #154 Morris Park c.1990's
Photo: Bobby Kasza
Farmingdale 3/21/1992
Photo: Al Castelli
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Wellwood Ave 1/05/2006
Photo: Al Castelli
LI City 3/20/2006
Photo: John McCluskey
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LI City 3/20/2006
Photo: John McCluskey
Fresh Pond Yard #154 in new
paint
10/22/2017 Photo: Greg Grice
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LIRR new GM#155 - Engineer Dennis P. Demitry Photo: Ziel house in Water Mill
4/29/1977
Archive: Queens Public Library
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LIRR #155 Fresh Pond light
move westbound
1984
Photo: Mike Koehler
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Transferred to NYA in the late
90's wearing blue and white. See #156
LIRR #155 was painted in NYA
green almost immediately after take over.
Info: John Volpi
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Fresh Pond 6/20/2007
Photo: Joe Gregory
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LIRR #156 Farmingdale 12/08/1985
Photo: Al Castelli
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LIRR #156 Smithtown
2/03/2003
with NYA logo. Photo: John Volpi
LIRR #156 Pine Aire
siding 12/2001 NYA logo. Out of Service about 2 years. Photo/Info: John Volpi
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Transferred to NYA in the late
90's wearing blue and white with NYA logo applied. Perhaps first unit
with new logo. Info: John Volpi
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Maspeth 3/13/2006
Photo: John McCluskey
Fresh Pond 6/20/2007
Photo: Joe Gregory
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LIRR #157 Hicksville 4/05/1986
Photo: Al Castelli
LIRR #157 Morris Park c.1990's
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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Hicksville # 157 4/05/1986
Photo: Al Castelli
The yard is the one on West John
St, west of the Hicksville station and across from Nassau County's Cantiague
Park.
NYAR has it now & it's where the Twin Forks ex-PRR LIRR steel hack
is. Behind the loco is the mainline, west is to the right. The track I'm
standing on and the one to the right lead into the yard behind me. The loco
is on a siding that runs east. Info: Al Castelli
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Farmingdale(?) Central branch #157
drilling freight
Photo: Mike Koehler
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LI City 3/20/2006
Photo: John McCluskey
Wellwood Ave 8/11/2007
Photo: Joe Gregory
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New #158 with EMD visible on the knuckle
Morris Park 3/1977
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Farmingdale #158 3/02/1986
Photo: Al Castelli
LIRR #158 Smithtown
Photo: Mike Koehler |
Smithtown
#158 7/21/2006
Photo: John Volpi |
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Ronkonkoma #158, #157 and #166
Ballast Train
5/09/2007
Photo: William Skeats
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LIRR #159 Farmingdale 8/24/1986
Photo: Al Castelli
Smithtown Salt Train eastbound
Photo: Mike Koehler
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East of Smithtown 5/29/1985
Photo: John Volpi
NYA #159 Smithtown
5/11/2001
Photo: John Volpi
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NYA #159 Prima
Asphalt 11/13/2004
Photo: John Volpi
NYA #159 Bay Ridge Branch 6/02/2007
Photo: Joe Tischner
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Transferred to NYA in the late
90's wearing blue and white.
Info: John Volpi
NYA #159 Jamaica Station 8/03/2007
Photo: Adam Moreira
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LIRR #160 Holban c.1970's
Photo: Steve Hoskins
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Fresh Pond
Photo: Mike Koehler
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LI City 3/20/2006
Photo: John McCluskey
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Farewell to the
M1Fantrip
11/04/2006
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LIRR #161 Morris Park switching Sunrise Fleet parlor #2021 c.1970's
Photo/Info: Tim Darnell
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Ronkonkoma 10/22/1984
Photo: John Volpi
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LIRR #161 Morris Park
c.1990s
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LI City 3/20/2006
Photo: John McCluskey
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LIRR #161 Morris Park
c.1990s
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #162 Port Jefferson
President's Day 2/22/2001
Photo: John Volpi
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LIRR #162 at Bone Yard
Morris Park
9/2006 Not in service on the dead line.
Info/Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #163
Morris Park c.1990's
Photo: Bobby Kasza
LIRR #163 Smithtown Ash Train WB
Photo: Mike
Koehler
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LIRR #163 6/11/2007
Photo: Joe Gregory
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Rego Park 3/20/2006
Photo: John McCluskey
Rego Park 3/20/2006
Photo: John McCluskey
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LI City 3/20/2006
Photo: John McCluskey
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LIRR #164 Ash Train
Photo: Mike
Koehler
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LIRR #164 view west
Borden Ave, LI City 9/2007
Photo: Joe Gregory
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LIRR #165 Mineola c.1970's
Photo: Steve Hoskins
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Rego
Park 3/13/2006
Photo: John McCluskey
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LIRR #166 Farmingdale 8/24/1986
Photo: Al Castelli
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LI City LIST Trip 1993
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St. James 5/1984
Photo: John Volpi
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LIRR #166
Ronkonkoma 12/14/2003
Photo: John Volpi
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LIRR #167 Morris Park 9/2002
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza
Smithtown work train c.1983
Photo: Mike Koehler
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Morris Park 10/2002
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza
Morris Park 10/2002
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza
Experimental Scheme Info: John Volpi
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LIRR #167 Wellwood
Siding 12/20/2003
Photo: John Volpi Latest scheme
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LIRR #168 Greenport 7/1980. Consist is the Sunday evening train from Greenport to
Jamaica. Parlor observation LIRR 2082 ASHAROKEN is immediately behind the
locomotive.
Photo/Info: Jack Deasy
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Ronkonkoma c.1979
Photo: Len Torney
Ronkonkoma c.1979
Photo: Len Torney
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Huntington 8/19/1984
Photo: John Volpi
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Morris Park 4/07/2007
Photo: Dietrich Ryan
Heading out of the siding, MP15AC #168 leads a ballast train eastbound.
Lindenhurst, Wellwood Ave. siding
11/11/2004 Photo: Lester
Zmudzinski
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LIRR #169 Hillside c1970's
Photo: Steve Hoskins
As newly delivered, no M on the nose...
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LI City Yard A c1970's
Photo: Steve Hoskins
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LIRR #169, #158 Patchogue 1/07/1990
Alan Tillotson photo, Dave Keller archive
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LIRR #169 Bone Yard Morris
Park
9/2006
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #170 Smithtown
Photo: Mike Koehler
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Ronkonkoma
5/1985
Photo: John Volpi
LIRR #170P **
Photo: Mike Koehler
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Riverdale, IL
delivery 5/01/1977
Photo: Kim Piersol
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#170 at St. James10/08/2003
Photo: John Volpi
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LIRR #171 Smithtown
Photo: Mike Koehler
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171P Ronkonkoma c.1985
Photo: Mike Koehler
Oyster Bay 7/1982
Photo: John Volpi
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Greenport 11/13/1997
Photo:
William Skeats
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Smithtown
8/28/2003
Photo: John Volpi
Morris Park c. mid-1990's
Photo: Bobby J. Kasza
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LIRR #172
Morris Park c.1990's
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #172-#106 Morris Park
c.1990's
Photo: Bobby Kasza
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LIRR #172P Amagansett
11/14/1986
Photo: Al Castelli
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#172-#156 Oyster Bay 10/1994
Photo: John Volpi
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LI City 3/20/2006
Photo: John McCluskey
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Harold Pprotect Engine
9/12/2006 Photo: Bobby Kasza
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**Notes on the MP15s with
"P" numbers:
Some MP15ac's were converted
to a power cab option and numbered with a "P" before or after
the road number. This option allowed the throttle to be set to an
equivalent of notch 6 to turn the generator at a steady speed. Energy was
channeled to a 4-point jumper to the train. These conversions allowed
these engines to supplement the Alco & EMD cab unit power cabs
which had problems in cold weather. These operated in push-pull service
with another MP15ac or a GP38-2 as the motive power.
Dates of the conversions:
#171 was first unit,
converted to full power cab configuration on 1/19/82, then to the option
in 2/82
#170 in 1/82
#169, #172 in 2/82
These four units were surplus
power from freight service.
The following are in number
order:
#161 in 4/84
#162 in 2/84
#163 in 11/83
#164 in 10/83
#165 in 10/83
#166 in 10/83
#167 in 9/83
#168
in 8/83
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#167 had "hump" (creeper) control, but it was removed when given the power cab option and put into #150.
#168 had Microphor L.T.P. (Low Temperature Protection) unit installed in 3/83.
Source: Diesels of the Sunrise Trail by: John Scala
Notes thanks to: Al Castelli
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