The Long Island Railroad Alco S1 & S2 Engine Roster

LIRR #404-408 Model: S1 Class: AS-6, Builder: Alco GE,  HP: 660, Trucks:  B-B  Effort:  29,200  Weight: 199,900  Date: 1946  Blunt Trucks, Round exhaust, Narrow radiators (non Turbo)

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LIRR #405
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#405 Morris Park Shops 3/14/1964
Photo/Archive: Ralph A. Shelhamer
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LIRR #406 Richmond Hill
Photo: Steve Hoskins, Archive: Steve Lynch
 
#406 Richmond Hill  - 6/18/1965
(Ziel-Queens Public Library)
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LIRR #407 Morris Park
Photo: Steve Hoskins, Archive: Steve Lynch
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LIRR #407 MTA Yard A 
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LIRR #408 Yard A Photo: Steve Hoskins, Archive: Steve Lynch
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LIRR #408 and #407 by American Steel Wool Co., Yard A view North
 
LIRR #413-421 Model: S1 Class: AS-6, Builder: Alco GE,  HP: 660, Trucks:  B-B  Effort:  29,200  Weight: 199,900  Date: 1949 Blunt Trucks, Round exhaust, Narrow radiators (non Turbo)
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LIRR #413 Morris Park Photo: Steve Hoskins, Archive: Steve Lynch
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LIRR #414 Forest Park  09/22/1968
Archive: Gary Everhart
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#415 Morris Park Shops 3/14/1964 Photo/Archive: Ralph A. Shelhamer
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LIRR #416 Dunton Photo: Steve Hoskins, Archive: Steve Lynch
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LIRR #417 LI City Yard A 03/21/1976
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LIRR #417 LI City Yard A 1/09/1976
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#419 Morris Park Shops 3/14/1964 Photo/Archive: Ralph A. Shelhamer
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LIRR #419
 

LIRR #419 Richmond Hill 1962
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LIRR #419 LI City Float Yard  8/31/1975
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LIRR #420 Richmond Hill Photo: Steve Hoskins Archive: Steve Lynch
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LIRR #420 LI City 06/15/1973

LIRR #420 L City 1/10/1975

LIRR #421 LI City 03/12/52 
Collection: Gary Stuebben
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LIRR #421 LI City with Idler MOW car taking delivery of Subway  R32 cars. 11/1964
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LIRR #421 Morris Park 11/28/65

LIRR #439-448, 451-460 Model: S2 Class: AS-10, Builder: Alco GE,  HP: 1000, Trucks:  B-B  Effort:  57,500  Weight: 233,000  Date: 1948-49  Blunt Trucks, Rectangular exhaust, Wide radiators (Turbo)

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LIRR #439 Morris Park Photo: Steve Hoskins, Archive: Steven Lynch

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LIRR #439 LI City Float Yard 05/05/1974 

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D&H ALCO S2 #3027 at Morris Park prior to LIRR #441 repaint 
6/29/1964 (Rugen-Huneke)

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LIRR #441 Yard A view north

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LIRR #441 Yard A Photo: Steve Hoskins, Archive: Steven Lynch

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LIRR #442 LI City  Photo: Joe Daly
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LIRR #444 Bay Ridge with float reach car Photo: Phil Goldstein
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LIRR  #444 Morris Park Yard 1977 Photo: Art Huneke
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LIRR #445, LIRR #420 LI City Yard A 04/14/1973 Archive: Henry Wagner

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LIRR #446 Float Docks at LI City 1955 Archive: Dave Keller


LIRR #447 MOW W39 reacher flat car LI City 196
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LIRR #447 in "as-delivered" color scheme at Floral Park Jct.
with Creedmoor Branch view N c.1950 Photo: Art Huneke

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LIRR #447 in "as-delivered" color scheme, pulling idler car past the PRR locomotive sanding facility and engine house in Sunnyside Yard, LI City. 3/28/1954 (Faxon-Keller)

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LIRR  #447 Yard A with Idler (reach) car Photo: Steve Hoskins Archive: Dave Keller

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LIRR #447 Yard A 05/75 Photo: Tim Darnell

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LIRR #448 Sunnyside Yard LI City 0813/66

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LIRR #448 w/h #C64 hack on freight, N siding at PD 12/1971 
Archive: Dave Keller
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LIRR #448 Freight at Port Jefferson Branch, Hicksville 1950 
Archive: Dave Keller

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LIRR #449 MPark Shops 08/03/58
Archive: Dave Keller

ALCO S1, S2 units delivered in black with gold Starting 1946–1955 lettering and numbers in “Penn Roman” font 

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LIRR #451 Morris Park Photo: Steve Hoskins Archive: Steve Lynch

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LIRR #452

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LIRR #453 Morris Park Photo: Steve Hoskins Archive: Steve Lynch

LIRR #453  1971 Photo/Archive: Richard Glueck

LIRR #453 switching freight - 1971 Photo/Archive: Richard Glueck
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 LIRR #453 "PW" wye  Pinelawn 11/11/1976
   
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#454 Morris Park Shops 3/14/1964 Photo/Archive: Ralph A. Shelhamer
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LIRR #454 Yard A Photo: Steve Hoskins, Archive: Steve Lynch
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ALCO S2 #455 switching freight at Whitestone Jct. Flushing Meadows 
view SE 06/02/51 (Faxon-Keller)
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LIRR #455-439 Morris Park Shops 01/19/76 Archive: Dave Keller
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LIRR #455 Pine Aire 12/06/1975

 

Above left: S2 #455 in original "as-delivered" black livery, gold lettering, small road numbers, and white pilot is switching a boxcar and a pole car at the old Whitestone Junction, on the Port Washington branch just east of the former 1939 NY World's Fair grounds on June 2, 1951.  This view is looking SE from the old pedestrian overpass which was constructed for the fair, so visitors arriving by IRT trains could cross the LIRR tracks and access the entrance.  Directly behind the photographer was the site of the old United Nations station, which was in service at the time this photo was taken.  "JC" tower was once located inside the switch to the former Whitestone branch in the left background.  By 1952, both the overpass and the United Nations station were history. (Will V. Faxon, Jr. photo, Dave Keller archive)

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LIRR #456 builder photo 1/1949

ALCO S1, S2 units delivered in black with gold Starting 1946–1955 lettering and numbers in “Penn Roman” font

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LIRR #456 Richmond Hill 1949-50
Archive: Dave Keller
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LIRR #456 Morris Park Photo: Steve Hoskins, Archive: Steve Lynch
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LIRR #457 Yard A Photo: Steve Hoskins, Archive: Steve Lynch
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LIRR #458 Freight at Babylon 1957
Archive: Dave Keller

LIRR #458 Ronkonkoma 1972 Photo/Archive: Richard Glueck
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Garden City - Mitchel Field Secondary Track,  LIRR  #460  in original "as-delivered" black livery, gold lettering, small road numbers, and white pilot working west of the A&P Bronze Station c. 1950 Archive: Jeff Erlitz

 

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LIRR  #460 with Idler Car Yard A LI City  c.1958 Archive: Dave Keller 
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#460 Morris Park Shops 3/14/1964 Photo/Archive: Ralph A. Shelhamer

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LIRR #460 Morris Park Photo: Steve Hoskins, Archive: Steve Lynch

SURVIVING ex-LIRR  S1-2 UNITS 

Here are the LIRR Alco S1's, about half are unaccounted for since John Scala's book "Diesels of the Sunrise Trail" published in 1984. As always, any updates, corrections, etc. are welcome! Research: Tim Darnell

exlirr_AlcoS1_407bobanderson_Clifton05-25-07.jpg (126546 bytes)407-April 6, 1977 to SIRTOA from the LIRR. Data: John Scala

Staten Island Rapid Transit, will be sold when new power arrives.
Clifton, NY 05/25/07 Photo: Bob Anderson

Sold to: Catskill Mountain Railroad D
eparted Staten Island by truck on April 30. Unit was delivered to Mt. Tremper on May 6, 2010 reassembled and running on May 7.  Info: Otto Vondrak


417-Sitting at Colonie, NY with a cracked engine block, privately owned. 

419-FCCX Farmers Commission, Upper Sandusky, OH, active as of 1/24/2021.
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Grain elevator in Sandusky, OH 07/11/09 Photos: Mike Koehler

420-Archer Daniels Midland (ADM), Decautur, IL, stored out of service with cracked block and electrical fire damage.
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c. 07/2008 used for parts Photo: Mike Koehler

 

 

 

lirr420_ADMglobalsafetyweek.jpg (140619 bytes)  9/1/2010 ex-LIRR #420 at ADM Photo: Mike Koehler

 

 

 

 

ADM railcar repair took the loco, and painted it for use during their safety campaign for the year, and is using it as the facility "billboard." The new road number is actually the street address of the building, it is parked in front of their facility in Decatur IL. 

For now I would call it "saved" but since the cab was severely burned, I doubt it will ever be "restored." This is as fitting an end as we might hope for, at least better than being scrapped.  Mike Koehler

The following were reported in John Scala's book "Diesels of the Sunrise Trail" published in 1984.
A recent search turned up nothing, so the dispositions of these are unknown:
 
404-Island Creek coal (no cab)
405- Went to a few owners in Texas.
413- Went to Wyandotte Dolomite, Carey, OH through dealer G. R. Silcott

Here are the LIRR Alco S2 dispositions: 

The 445 was scrapped 2008, and 452 sits at NY&LE, just the cab & frame remain, disposition unknown. 
The 454 was leased in the 1980's to a small RR in IL, nothing found on it.
The 444 went to Lubrizol in Texas, unknown if it's still there.
The 439, 440, 442, 443, 451, 453, 455, 457 were all rebuilt after leaving LI, some lost their cabs or had a modified cab replacement, and some had replacement engines installed. A few were done by Naporano, and others by Southern Rails Inc. Sometimes, the modifications were so extreme, it's hard to tell it was an Alco S unit at one time!

The two SIRT Alcos to Downeast Scenic Railroad, Maine. It may be a tourist operation. (not confirmed) 

SHAMROCKLRS144_ex-LIRR439.jpg (69373 bytes) Laurinburg & Southern #144 (was LI 439) 5/20/1995 Location: Hamlet, NC Collection Of: Patrick Treadaway 


 

 

lrs144craigZeniex-lirrS2_439remotecontrol.jpg (78002 bytes) Laurinburg & Southern #144 (was LI 439) 12/08/2001 Location: Goldsboro Milling, Goldsboro, NC. Collection Of: Craig Zeni

 

 

 

Tim Darnell Update: 01/23/09