LIRR MISC DATA

LONG ISLAND RAIL ROAD

MISCELLANEOUS DATA

STEAM LOCOMOTIVES:

Class D16s superheated and converted to D16sb Starting in 1914

Westbound steam trains changed head-end motive

power at “HAROLD” interlocking with PRR DD1s

and crews and reversed the procedure eastbound 1910 – Autumn/1927

Steam trains changed head-end motive power at

Jamaica and LIRR purchased 16 DD1 locomotives

from the PRR to accomplish this change of power Autumn/1927

PRR class E2 superheated and converted to E7s By 1929

PRR class E2, E3 construction dates c. 1904 – 1906

K4s locomotives first used on Montauk branch

(After installation of heavier bridge over

Shinnecock Canal. Prior to that, Montauk June/1931

trains of 12 or more cars were required to be

double-headed by 2 - G5s locomotives)

Pedestal-type, multi-directional classification lights

atop smokebox and pedestal-style multi-directional

marker lights atop pilot introduced: Fall / 1922

a. Removed from yard service and freight-

service-only locomotives, beginning: July /1929

b. Removed from passenger service loco-

motives and freight locomotives in

passenger service, beginning: June / 1940

(The Keystone: Spring/2002)

“New” one-directional marker lights introduced

atop smokebox only: June / 1942

(The Keystone: Spring/2002)

Futura lettering on tenders replaces Dulux gold 1940 – 1941

“Penn Roman” font lettering

K-4s locomotives first used on Port Jefferson branch 1940 – 1941

Silver-gray smokebox color (graphite with aluminum)

stopped during war years (dull gray in use) 1942 - 1945

Keystone number plate conversion Fall / 1942

Steam deflectors behind whistles Starting in 1943

K4s locomotives used auto stokers April/1944 - 1948

(Stoker motor under cab: left side of loco)

Small, cast headlights with illuminated side num-

bers installed on MOST G5s locomotives 1944 - 1945

K4s locomotives get “facelift” (Generator exchanged 1945 on PRR, latter

with headlight and large platform added be- part of 1946 on LIRR

low smokebox to service the generator) (Not All are done by 1949

done to K2s or K3s locomotives)

Keystones have large numbers Pre-1945

Keystones have smaller numbers 1945

Newer, smaller marker lights appear atop smokebox 1947

Class C51 has large tool box added to pilot 1948

E6s, H9s leased locomotives left LIRR service 1949

Montauk trains dieselized 1950

Last four (4) K4s leased locomotives left LIRR service October, 1951

Greenport passenger trains dieselized October, 1951

PRR G5s #5741 appeared on LI as relief engine for

LIRR G5s #21 August, 1955

Last operation of LIRR steam

Last steam-pulled revenue trains October 8, 1955

(behind G5s #’s 35 and 39)

Last operation of LIRR steam: pulling railfan extra October 16, 1955

(behind G5s #39)

ELECTRIC LOCOMOTIVES:

Display of indication lights on the front of MUs is 11/27/32

discontinued

Class DD1 gets pin-striped for N.Y. World’s Fair. 1939

New color scheme includes LIRR keystone logo

Class DD1 @ Morris Park Shops begins use of

new DD1 lay-up yard near elevated Montauk 1944

branch

Some class DD1 units get Tichy color scheme early 1950

PASSENGER CARS:

Wooden cars used between steel cars in same train 1915

consist outlawed in tunnels

Least year wooden cars used in revenue service 1927

Futura lettering 1940 – 1941

Old-style Dulux gold lettering in “Penn Roman” 1942

font re-done with letters spaced further

apart

Original 1905-era class MP41 MU cars last ran in 1950

passenger service on Mitchel Field shuttle:

Tichy color scheme: Slate gray body, dark green

undercarriage, bright aluminum roof Beginning 11/1/49

Named for designer Lester C. Tichy (1905-1981) until 11/1/52

(period of painting)

Large marker light added to rear of steam cars.

Headlight of electric cars modified to be large May 24, 1951

marker light when used as last car on train

MU cars end doors painted orange Starting in 1952

TRAIN INFORMATION:

“REX” Trains = Trains consisting of all REA and/or baggage cars

Train service inaugurated to Kings Park State Hospital 1911

Train service inaugurated to Central Islip State Hospital 1911

PRR “K” card system in service 5/23/28

Train service inaugurated to Pilgrim State Hospital 6/24/34

Last hospital train providing service onto Kings Park State

Hospital grounds timetable of 5/69

Last hospital train providing service to Kings Park State

Hospital terminating on the Kings Park station

siding with bus and cab service to the hospital timetable of 5/70

Last year of the hospital train providing service to

Central Islip State Hospital 1971

Last hospital train to Pilgrim State Hospital and return 5/21/78

PARLOR CAR SERVICE:

Parlor car service provided by Woodruff Parlor Car

Company 1870s – 1892

LIRR takes control of Woodruff property and oper-

ates their own parlor service 1892 – 4/1/26

Pullman Company service inaugurated, using

Pennsy’s pool of Pullman equipment 4/1/26 – Labor Day/1942

PRR takes over parlor service 1946 – 1958

LIRR Special Services Department formed 1957

LIRR acquires 2 parlor cars and develops its parlor

service October, 1958

BUILDINGS:

Large coaling tower at L. I. City built: 1902-03

Turntable on dock adjacent to Dutch Kills, L. I. City

built: 1903-04

Storage tracks at L. I. City added: 1903-04

North Yard (Wheelspur Yard) enlarged and connect-

ion via double slip switches to Dock Yard south

of tracks at Dutch Kills installed: 1903-04

Station signs indicating mileage from L.I. City Sept. 8, 1910

and mileage to end of branch discontinued

with opening of Pennsylvania Station and

mileage now being determined from that

terminal. (mileage from Penn Sta. indicated

in employee timetables eff. that date with

the exception of the Montauk branch which

still used L.I. City as its terminal.)

Morris Park wooden coaling tower built 1911

Morris Park smoke washer bridge and

mechanism installed 1914

Branch terminal engine houses razed by PRR edict Beginning in 1928

(Oyster Bay razed: 8/4/29)

PRR Keystone signs on stations Starting in late 1929

PRR Keystone signs on towers Starting in 1937

Morris Park wooden coaling tower razed Winter/1944-45

Morris Park concrete coaling tower built Fall/1944

Cone-style roof removed from Morris Park Shops

water tower 1944

Morris Park smoke washer mechanism removed

from support bridge Spring/1945

Morris Park smoke washer bridge removed July/1946

Overhead piping near Morris Park locomotive shop

and turntable “garden” tracks in use Early 1946

Full 2^nd floor added over Jamaica station waiting

room and opened for service (per The Long

Island Railroader) 9/1/61

PAINT SCHEMES:

Tuscan Red with Dulux gold lettering in “Penn Until 1940-41

Roman” font (all passenger cars, loco tenders)

Tuscan Red with gold Futura lettering 1940-41

(some passenger cars, loco tenders)

Tuscan Red with Dulux gold lettering in “Penn 1942-1950+

Roman” font spaced further apart (all passenger

cars, loco tenders)

Baldwin units delivered in black with gold lettering Starting 1945-1955

and numbers in “Penn Roman” font

ALCO S1, S2 units delivered in black with gold Starting 1946–1955

lettering and numbers in “Penn Roman” font

ALCO RS1 units delivered in black with gold Starting 1949-advent of Tichy

lettering and numbers in “Penn Roman” font

Tichy: Applied to all psgr cars, some DD1 electric 11/1/49 to 11/1/52

locos, an elec. shop switcher and ALCO RS1 units. through 1955

RS1 units repainted up until 11/1/52. Only loco-

motives wore the Long Island shadowed map logo.

FM C-liners arrived in this scheme in Jan. 1950.

Dark gray with orange end doors and dark green 1955-1961

roof (all psgr. cars) per Keystone magazine:

LIRR holds press run of 5 new air-conditioned 5/23/55

P72 cars to Greenport. Tichy scheme abandoned

in favor of dark gray body and dark green roof.

Dark gray with orange nose (diesel locomotives) 1955-1961

Charcoal gray (Goodfellow gray) (all psgr. cars) 1962-1964

Charcoal gray (Goodfellow gray) with orange nose

(diesel locomotives)

**see “Misc. LIRR Trivia” for more

Charcoal gray with orange stripe (N.Y. World’s Fair 1964-1968

colors: passenger cars)

Charcoal gray (Goodfellow gray) with orange wave

(diesel locomotives)

MTA blue and yellow (diesel locomotives) 1968-1976

MTA Platinum Mist (passenger cars) 1968-end of push-pull service

MTA blue and orange body [caboose] 1990's: Info: Paul Strubeck

EMPLOYEES:

Towermen begin working 8-hour days. 3rd shift October, 1907

(trick) added to jobs as a result.

Crossing Watchmen and Trafficmen were both part of the LIRR PD

until 1928 - early 1930s. “Trafficman” was a promotion from “Crossing

Watchman.”

When the PRR took over actual operation of the LIRR - 1928 to early

1930s – they made both part of the MOW Dept. A Watchman or

Trafficman could bid for a job in the track dept and vice versa. The

uniform gradually disappeared starting with this transfer of authority.

The job eventually went from prestigious to run-of-the-mill.

(Information per Art Huneke: 11/8/07 )

MISCELLANEOUS:

Hoban Yard opened: 1906

LIRR keystone logo with “ Long Island ” spelled in full 1915

first officially appears on LIRR system passes.

LIRR keystone logo with “LIRR” intertwined first 1917

appears on LIRR advertisements in the travel

magazine “The Open Road” and in the outdoor

sports and games magazine “Following the Ball”.

(Info and photographic proof courtesy of Art Huneke)

“Dashing Dan” logo appears on Form LI-1 system 6/21/59

timetables

REMITTANCES:

Remittance in cash was sent via express messenger. Years back it was most likely the Long Island Express Company. The cash would be placed in a heavy envelope, sealed, and large needle with heavy thread/twine shoved through the cash remittance to keep anyone along the way from sneaking one or two bills out of the batch without cutting the string, and sealing wax melted over the ends of the string and the envelope seal and embossed with the metal wax sealer of the specific station.

This procedure was explained by George G. Ayling, Agent/operator at CI who, back in 1909, started his LIRR career as an express messenger at Brentwood.

EXPRESS SERVICES:

Long Island Express Co., created by the LIRR, pre-1913

handled local baggage and express shipments.

Adams Express Co., a nation-wide concern, took 1913

over L. I. Express and allowed through-express

service to the nation.

American Railway Express Co. was created during 1917

WWI by the United States Railroad Administration

(USRA) which nationalized the express businesses

of Adams Express Co, American Express Co.,

Southern Express Co. and Wells, Fargo & Co.

Express. (Federal administration ended in 1920).

American Railway Express Co. was transferred to March/1929

the Railway Express Agency (REA) which was

owned and operated by 86 American railroads.

GENERAL DATA:

GENERAL ORDER #60, EFFECTIVE 5/24/09:

BETHPAGE BRANCH (Bethpage Jct. to Bethpage Brick Works) WILL BE CONSIDERED A SIDING.

GENERAL ORDER: EFFECTIVE 1921:

BETHPAGE AND CREEDMOOR BRANCHES AND CENTRAL EXTENSION “HC” TO BETHPAGE JCT. WILL BE CONSIDERED SIDINGS.

GENERAL ORDER #111-25C, EFFECTIVE 1/8/30:

MONTAUK BRANCH: END OF DOUBLE TRACK, LOCATED 4,135’ EAST OF SAYVILLE STATION, RELOCATED 3,000’ WEST OF FORMER LOCATION (ACCOUNT MONTAUK HWY. [ROUTE 27] GRADE CROSSING ELIMINATION PROJECT.)

GENERAL ORDER #111-5B/49C, EFFECTIVE 5/14/30:

MANHATTAN BEACH BRANCH: MAIN TRACK FROM EMMONS LANE TO AVENUE Z, OUT OF SERVICE

GENERAL ORDER #113-19C, EFFECTIVE 2/16/31:

WEST LEG OF WYE, EASTPORT, OUT OF SERVICE.

GENERAL ORDER #113-30C, EFFECTIVE 4/14/31:

MAIN LINE: LETTER “G” REMOVED FROM ALL AUTOMATIC BLOCK SIGNALS.

GENERAL ORDER #115-18C, EFFECTIVE 2/19/32:

FLUSHING-BRIDGE STREET, COLLEGE POINT, MALBA, WHITESTONE AND WHITESTONE LANDING STATIONS AND STATION FACILITIES, OUT OF SERVICE.

GENERAL ORDER #117-6C, EFFECTIVE 1/21/33:

STEAM LOCOMOTIVES ARE RESTRICTED FROM USING WYE AT WADING

RIVER.

GENERAL ORDER #401BC, EFFECTIVE 9/15/35:

BRANCH BETWEEN WEST HEMPSTEAD STATION AND “MT” (MINEOLA) REDESIGNATED SIDING.

GENERAL ORDER #1006C, EFFECTIVE 3/29/39:

SINGLE TRACK FROM A POINT 1,550’ EAST OF EAST LEG OF WYE, PORT

JEFFERSON STATION TO WADING RIVER STATION OUT OF SERVICE.

(Last revenue train was on 10/9/38. DK)

GENERAL ORDER #1002B/1013C, EFFECTIVE 5/3/39:

SAG HARBOR BRANCH OUT OF SERVICE: 5/3/39

ETT #22, EFFECTIVE 6/21/53:

“NORTH SIDE BRANCH” BECOMES “PORT WASHINGTON BRANCH”

GENERAL ORDER #216, EFFECTIVE 10/3/55:

ROCKAWAY BEACH BRANCH OUT OF SERVICE SOUTH OF OZONE PARK

AND WEST (GEOGRAPHICALLY) OF FAR ROCKAWAY.

GENERAL ORDER #1-21, EFFECTIVE 12/27/66:

LEAD TRACK FROM EAST END OF JERICHO TURNPIKE OVERGRADE BRIDGE

TO CREEDMOOR STATE HOSPITAL, OUT OF SERVICE.

GENERAL ORDER #119, EFFECTIVE 10/1/73:

HAND-OPERATED ELECTRIC LOCKED SWITCH IN NO. 1 TRACK LOCATED 1,800 FEET EAST OF FLORAL PARK LEADING TO CREEDMOOR LEAD TRACK REMOVED FROM SERVICE.

GENERAL ORDER #GN1-48, EFFECTIVE 2/15/83:

TURNTABLE TRACK AT OYSTER BAY OUT OF SERVICE.

MISCELLANEOUS LIRR TRIVIA:

Veteran LIRR engineer Ben Baptist started out as a fireman with the New York Central Railroad
and was the fireman of record aboard the famous NYC 4-4-0 locomotive #999 pulling the
“Empire State Express” between New York and Chicago’s Columbian Exposition in 1893, which,
at one point in the trip exceeded a speed of 100 miles-per-hour. #999 was later placed on
display at the 1939-40 New York World’s Fair in Flushing Meadows.
Ben Baptist lived into his 90s.

After the Jamaica Bay trestle fire of May 7-8, 1950, all trains to Rockaway Park via Valley Stream and Far Rockaway were considered as operating along the Far Rockaway branch. (per Art Huneke)

Thomas Goodfellow was named General Manager of the LIRR in 1954 and became president of the LIRR from January 1, 1956 until May 28, 1967 (per Art Huneke and Dave Morrison)

SECONDARY TRACK----A designated track upon which trains and engines may be operated without timetable authority, train orders or block signals, subject to prescribed signals and rules and special instructions.
(from Rules of the Operating Department 1982 Definitions, courtesy of J. J. Earl)

Fairbanks-Morse C-liner #2404 had yellow lettering in the early 1960s. It was the only LIRR diesel so lettered. When I was going to HS in the early 60's, I frequently saw this engine passing by “WIN.” It was kind of unique. (Dick Makse)

A round sign displaying the letter “B” was hung near the motorman’s window of an MU car to denote a train bound for Brooklyn ( Flatbush Avenue ) that would NOT be making a stop at Jamaica . A similar sign displaying “NY” meant the train was bound for Penn Station and would NOT be making a stop at Jamaica. (Mark Smith , LIRR engineer, retired.)