LIRR 19th Century Locomotives and History 

   Long Island Rail Road 1834 Charter
Archive: LIST-NRHS  - Sunrise Trail
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ARIEL: This was constructed in :November 1835 by Matthias W. Baldwin at Philadelphia, Pa. It was the 19th made by him and was ordered by the Brooklyn and Jamaica R. R. Co. at a cost of $7000. The exact date of its receipt by that railroad is not known, hut was probably about the date above stated. The road was formally opened April 18th, 1836, and although the Long Island Farmer described the event, the names of the locomotives drawing the excursion trains are not given. Shortly after this, May 1st, 1836, the Brooklyn and Jamaica R. R. was leased to the Long Island and thence forward the ''Ariel'' became a Long Island R. R. locomotive.  Ariel remained in service till 1855.


Excerpt: Inglis Stewart's LIRR Locomotive Roster - 1836-1871


LIRR Locomotive Roster 1855 Notes 1-2 Archive: Art Huneke

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Hunt's Merchant's Magazine & Commercial Review 1846 page 414

 

 

 

 

Hunt's Magazine 1845 LIRR Boston Route Described Pg 489 

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The LIRR went to sea from August, 1844 though February, 1847.  As part of its route between Brooklyn and Boston, the LIRR owned and operated a small fleet of steamboats, the Cleopatra, the Worcester and the New Haven. These steamboats made the waterborne connection between the eastern terminus of the LIRR at Greenport, Long Island, and the Connecticut rail terminals of the Norwich &Worcester RR at Allyn's Point, and the New York, Providence & Boston at Stonington.

"Earliest View of the LIRR's Greenport Terminus and Intermodal Transfer, circa 1844- 1847". 
Note the Ariel steam locomotive, Davenport & Bridges 4 axle passenger car, the LIRR's steamboat "Cleopatra" and the Peconic House hotel.

Cleopatra- The Connecticut Magazine, 1906, Vol 10, pg 307

The Peconic House hotel, which was end of track in Greenport. Note the Ariel or the Post Boy is pulling a one car local train right onto the pier- and seemingly right onto the waiting LIRR ferry boat "Cleopatra". Note it's a British style "compartment car" Now, getting back to the train schedule (above right), note that mile post "0" is Manhattan- it would seem the passenger cars were possibly carried on the ferry boat from Manhattan to Brooklyn, where the locomotive was attached.

The material/research above compliments of: Archive: Bob Diamond /BHRA, except as noted.

The LIRR locomotive renumbering took place effective October 1, 1898  

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LIRR 4-4-0 #45 12/1870

4-4-0 #45, built by Schenectady in December, 1870, was renumbered #8.

Now . . . the only #8 that the LIRR rosters show in later years (c. 1920) is G54sd (4-6-0) camelback built new in 1902 and retired in the late 1920s. 

Therefore, we can conclude that, to avoid duplicate road numbers, (probably the MAIN reason for the renumbering of October, 1, 1898) renumbered 4-4-0 #8 was withdrawn from service either in 1902 or prior to that date, which sounds about right, because:

1.  It was a VERY old locomotive style and not strong enough to pull longer trains.  
2.  It was 18 years older than renumbered #48 mentioned above, which was STILL on the roster until the 1920s.  
3.  Being built in 1870, it would have been 31 years old in 1902 if it were still in service:  a long life for a locomotive!  
4.  In 1902, brand-new G54sd camelback #8 went into road service and there was, obviously, no duplication of road numbers at that point in time.  Research: Dave Keller

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LIRR 4-4-0- Train at Port Jefferson Station view E 1878 (Brainard-Keller)

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New York & Sea Beach RR 2-4-0 #2 Bay Ridge c.1887

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LIRR Loco Blizzard 1888 First RJ Tower, Rockaway Junction in background 
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LIRR #125 c.1895
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LIRR 0-6-0 #198 Builder's Photo 
Archive: Sam Shumaker
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LIRR #93 Builder's Photo Rogers Locomotive & Machine Works
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 LIRR #6 c.1900 prior #44 before 1898
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LIRR  4-4-0 #524 being turned on turntable at Washington St., Jamaica view W 1904
Archive: Dave Keller
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LIRR 4-4-0 #38 Tank Engine c.1888 at Woodhaven Junction

Built June 1867 as a 4-4-0 by Schenectady Construction No. 450 - named the "Thurlow Weed" rebuilt 1885 for rapid transit service on the Atlantic Division - photo circa 1888

Note: Check out that outside bearing pilot truck with fenders and equalizer 

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James Gorden Bennet #25

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D56 pulling parlor car extra eastbound into Montauk Station  c.1910 Archive: Keller

Miscellaneous Locomotives - Tanks and Forneys
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0-4-0T #321 Morris Park shop switcher c.1920
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0-4-4T Forney #109 Morris Park shops c.1890 Archive: Dave Keller
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0-4-4 #109 Rockaway Jct. summer 1896
Archive: Dave Keller
0-4-4-T Forney Nos. 159-158-at Baldwin Loco Wks-05-1892.JPG (95985 bytes)
Forney 0-4-4T #159-158 at Baldwin Loco Works 5/1892 Archive: Dave Keller
0-4-4t No. 220-Rockaway Jct-Frank Hawkins on Engine-c. 1896 (Keller).jpg (112102 bytes)
0-4-4T #220 Rockaway Jct. Frank Hawkins on Engine c.1896 Archive: Dave Keller
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2-4-4T #211 with train at Station Oriental Hotel - Manhattan Beach 1898 
Archive: Dave Keller
LIRR 2-4-6T Mason Bogie at Engine House - 1890 (Huneke).jpg (78068 bytes)
2-4-6T Mason Bogie at Engine House 1890 
Archive: Art Huneke 
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Forney 0-4-6T #327 Station Sag Harbor View E 1903 Archive: Dave Keller