LIRR Gas
Cars
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The LIRR ran a shuttle between
Babylon and Patchogue for many years. Upon completion of the Montauk
branch electrification project to Babylon, Scoot service to Patchogue
commenced in May, 1925. Babylon Electrification and Babylon-Patchogue Scoot Info: Steve Lynch
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Ordered January 20, 1930, to the J. G. Brill Company of Philadelphia for five Brill Model 660's, PRR Class GEG415 gas-electric motor cars, Nos. 4666-4670. The 139,400 pound, 75-foot, 66-passenger baggage passenger combine, powered by a 415h.p. Hall-Scott gasoline engine, was capable of pulling four 50-ton trailers (reducing top speed from 60 to 43 mph on level track), which could be heated by its oil-fired Petersmith-Otis boiler. Info: Donald D. Smith
Brill Model 415 #4669-4670 Diagram - Digitally redrawn 2016 Chuck Blardone -The Keystone |
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The LIRR ran a
shuttle between Bridgehampton and Sag Harbor for many years. It alternated
service with PRR doodlebugs, as well. Gas car #1134 was the only doodlebug
road-marked "Long Island" as the few others in use were all marked
"Pennsylvania." Some of the Pennsy cars were very long and others
were short Brill versions like the #1134. Some were used in
Patchogue-Babylon "Scoot" service as well as service between Port
Jefferson and Wading River due to waning ridership. Train orders were issued
at PD (the block office at BH and SH had been closed) for these cars to make
extra runs between Bridgehampton and Sag Harbor. Gas car #1134 had a
baggage compartment, as well, so it could handle passengers, baggage and
express. Research: Dave Keller |
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J. G. Brill gas car (“doodlebug”) #1134 at the designated Sag Harbor platform at the station – Bridgehampton, NY – 1927. These gas cars were very convenient to short-line or shuttle operations in that one car could be used to carry both passengers and mail/express/baggage, with a crew of 2: conductor and engineer, and they ran on what was then inexpensive gasoline. It eliminated the need for a steam locomotive, tender loaded with coal, combine car and a full crew of engineer, fireman, conductor and trainman/brakeman. They were the forerunner of the BUDD Rail Diesel Car Archive: Dave Morrison |
Sag Harbor Branch - Change of Motive Power Article - 1927 LIRR #1134 Gas car - Archive: Art Huneke |
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Gas Car #1134 is laying up at the separate platform constructed for Sag
Harbor riders at Bridgehampton, on August 14, 1938, awaiting connection with
a thru-train to Montauk. At the far left are some ladies in their summer
finery also awaiting the thru-train and parked near them is an old open
"woody" style taxi. Other cars are awaiting the train at the rear
of the depot. The open car windows as well as the open vestibule door(s)
indicates a very hot August day. Note the stack atop the car for the
on-board car heater for use in the cooler months. |
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Gas Car #1134 photographed in April, 1939, one month before the line was
abandoned. The image shows the cost-effective two-man crew of engineer and
conductor. The man in the suit is probably a LIRR official making the ride
in preparation to abandonment of the branch in May, 1939. The 2-man crew
eliminated the need for a fireman, a trainman and a brakeman as well as the
additional need (and expense) to pull a tender full of coal and water. These
cars ran on gasoline. For reduced ridership, they were very economical and
were used quite frequently all over the Pennsy system. They were the
forerunners of the BUDD RDC concept. (Fred Weber photo, Dave Keller
archive) |
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Brill Gas Car #1134 at Richmond Hill Storage Yard - 8/1939 after being taken out of service (Morris Park Shops in background: view SE) |
Gas Car #1134 Interior - Richmond Hill Storage Yard - 8/1939 after being taken out of service
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PRR-leased gas car #4744 is seen laying up at the wye at Wading River, NY in January, 1932. The shuttle ran between that station and Port Jefferson, where a special lay-up track was built on the east side of the depot building. This branch extension between Port Jefferson and Wading River was abandoned in 1938. (George G. Ayling - Dave Keller)
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PRR-leased gas car #4744 is laying up at the designated Sag Harbor platform across from the Bridgehampton depot. View is looking east from the rear of a moving westbound train. Bridgehampton depot is at the right – 1936. These gas cars were used wherever the LIRR needed them in shuttle service. One even ran on the Patchogue – Babylon “Scoot” for a period of time. (Wm. Moneypenny - Dave Keller) |
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Station Bridgehampton- Sag Harbor Covered Platform zoom view E c._ 1925 (Osborne-Keller) |
Station Bridgehampton-Sag Harbor Covered Platform view E c. 1925 (Osborne-Keller) |
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Bridgehampton station looks
quite forlorn on this cold, winter's afternoon with snow on the ground.
The view is east from the westbound high-level express platform. The
depot building is at the right with the double-bladed "BH"
semaphore signal out front. The eastbound express house is in the
distance. At the left is the designated Sag Harbor platform which
sports a small shelter from the elements. At the far left, an express
car has been set out. This image is from c. 1925, so the block office
at "BH" was still in service, as evidenced by the semaphore blades
still in place and steam locomotives were still making runs up the spur to
Sag Harbor. It's possible the express car was brought down from Sag
earlier in the day by a local freight and spotted on the siding to be picked
up by a westbound Montauk train. Note the twisted light fixture on the
platform lamp closest to the camera at the right. This was probably
done intentionally to provide some directed light onto the express platform.
(James V. Osborne photo, Dave Keller archive)
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Gas Car Shuttle service ETT No. 4 - Sag Harbor to Bridgehampton - 9/15/1935
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Memo Gas Car at PD Tower - Patchogue-Babylon Scoot 6/15/1934 |
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GAS CAR - FORM 19 TRAIN ORDERS | |||
Form 19 PRR Gas Car #4669 PD Patchogue-Babylon Scoot 3/06/1933 |
Form 19 PRR Gas Car #4669 PD - Babylon to Amityville 3/19/1933 |
Form 19 PRR Gas Car #4669 PD Patchogue-Babylon Scoot Meet 10/20/1934 |
Form 19 PRR Gas Car #1134 PD Passenger Extra 12/29/1936 |
Form 19 PRR Gas Car #4744 Sag Harbor 1/20/1933 |
Form 19 PRR Gas Car #4744 Sag Harbor 1/30/1933 |
Form 19 PRR Gas Car #4670 PD Patchogue-Babylon Scoot 6/24/1934
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GAS CAR CREW LISTS | |||
Crew lists can be
deciphered thus:
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Crew List PRR Gas Car #4744 Sag Harbor 2/15/1933 |
Crew List LIRR Gas Car #1134 Train #1901 Sag Harbor 4/05/1933 |
Crew List PRR Gas Car #4742 Train #1901 Sag Harbor 4//30/1934
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