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![]() LIRR #2 N-5B Garden City 06/1999 Photo: Steven Lynch Archive: Dave Keller |
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Compiled by: Dave Keller |
(IRCC = Int’l Railway. Car Co.) (PSC = Pressed Steel Car Co.) (ACF = American Car & Foundry) |
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In 1914, PRR shops at Altoona built 'the world's first all steel eight-wheel caboose which would become class N5 Research: Bob Kaelin |
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1 | N5 |
PRR 4/1916 Ex-PRR #477039 Acquired: 1928 |
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![]() LIRR #1 East Willston c.1960's Photo: Steve Hoskins |
Cupola top – Retired: 1975 – Under restoration by Twin Forks Chapter, NRHS – Hicksville, NY |
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![]() LIRR #1 Morris Park Yard View NE 5/15/1956 (Rugen-Huneke) |
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2 | N5 |
PRR 6/1916 Ex-PRR #477604 Acquired: 1928 |
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![]() Lirr #2 at Hillside c.1960's Photo: Steve Hoskins |
Cupola top – Now owned and restored by Friends of Locomotive 35 – Oyster Bay, NY | ||
ACF built a final batch of five N52A in February 1927. These were numbered 10 thru 15 with the exception of number 13, as that was still on the last surviving four-wheeler that wasn't taken out of service until later that year. This number 13 was never reassigned, either. Research: Bob Kaelin |
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10 | N52A | ACF 2/1927 | Wood | Cupola top | |||
11 | N52A | ACF 2/1927 | Wood | Cupola top |
REMEMBRANCES of LIRR CLASS N52 CABIN CARS by Bob Kaelin HISTORY
OF THE LIRR CLASS N52 CABIN CARS |
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12 | N52A | ACF 2/1927 | Wood |
Cupola top: Now owned and restored by Friends of
Locomotive 35 – Oyster Bay, NY 5/03 ![]() Oyster Bay, NY 11/29/2003 Photo: Dave Morrison |
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13 | Bobber | Wood |
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Cupola top 4-wheeled “Bobber” Raymond Robinson, Sr., LIRR freight conductor (with mustache) sitting on rear platform of hack. Info: Dave Keller |
LIRR Bobber Caboose list:
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14 | N52A | ACF 2/1927 | Wood |
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Cupola top: Now owned and restored by Railroad Museum of L.I. - Greenport, NY
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15 | N52A | ACF 2/1927 | Wood |
![]() #15 Brooklyn 1951 Photo: NJ Industrial Photographers Archive: RMC |
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Pressed Steel Car Company (PSC) built 15 N52A in 1925 and these were given the numbers 16 thru 33 with missing numbers 17, 26 and 32 which were still assigned to three of the remaining four-wheelers still in use. Research: Bob Kaelin |
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16 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood | Cupola top | |||
17 | Bobber | Wood | Cupola top - 4-wheeled “Bobber” | ||||
18 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood |
Cupola top Collection: Dave Keller |
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19 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood |
Cupola top Wrecked at Farmingdale 8/23/43 Archive: Dave Keller |
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20 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood |
Cupola top “Keystone,” Summer 1987 LIRR Caboose roster by Bob Kaelin, the #22 is shown as sold, moved to Manorville June 1957, and then scrapped. |
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21 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood | Cupola top | |||
22 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood |
Cupola top Collection: Kings Park Museum |
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23 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood | Cupola top | |||
24 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood | Cupola top | |||
25 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood |
Cupola top Collection: Dave Keller |
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26 | Bobber | Cupola top - 4-wheeled “Bobber” | |||||
27 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood | ![]() 4/12/1956 |
Cupola top | ||
28 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood |
![]() Photo: Dan Myers c. 1960's The caboose was brought to Middletown as one of the first elements of the Empire State Ry museum in the early 60's. The body of the caboose was burned in the 70's. |
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29 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood |
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30 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood | Cupola top | |||
31 | N52A | PSC 1925 | Wood | Cupola top | |||
32 | Bobber | Wood | Cupola top - 4-wheeled “Bobber” | ||||
Replacement of the four-wheelers on the LIRR began in 1916 with the construction of numbers 33 thru 35 which were steel underframe, eight-wheel cars patterned after the N5 in dimensions and layout except that they were of "composite" construction (having an iron-reinforced wooden superstructure) and were designated as sub-class "N52." Three more of these (numbers 36 thru 38) were built the following year. These six were all built in the LIRR's own shops. Research: Bob Kaelin |
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33 | N52 | LIRR Shops 1916 | WD | Cupola top | |||
34 | N52 | LIRR Shops 1916 | WD |
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Cupola top Rebuilt 1959 at Morris Park Shops, No bay window, cupola removed Archive: Dave Keller | ||
35 | N52 | LIRR Shops 1916 | Wood | Cupola top | |||
36 | N52 | LIRR Shops 1917 | Wood |
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Cupola top Hicksville 1954 Collection: Art Huneke |
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37 | N52 | LIRR Shops 1917 | Wood | Cupola top | |||
38 | N52 | LIRR Shops 1917 | Wood |
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![]() LIRR Caboose Class N52A 1922 Diagram built by ACF #39-48 6/1922-7/1922 Source: Cabin Cars of the Pennsylvania and Long Island Railroads - Caboose Data Book No. 2 N.J. International, Inc. |
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In the early 1920s, the LIRR started to purchase more of these cars from outside manufacturers. These were almost identical except for variations in the underframe and endsills and became class N52A. The first group was a batch of ten built by American Car & Foundry (ACF) in 1922 and these were numbered 39 thru 48. Research: Bob Kaelin |
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39 | N52A | 6/1922 | Wood | ![]() |
Cupola top |
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41 | N52A | 6/1922 | Wood |
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Caboose #41 in Blake Ave. Yard, N. of New Lots
Ave. on the Bay Ridge Branch. View E. Platform at right background is the
New Lots Station of the BMT's Canarsie Line - c. 1948 Info/Archive: Dave Keller |
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42 | N52A | 6/1922 | Wood | ![]() |
In the snow at Sunnyside Yard, LI City in
02/1948 1948. Info: Dave Keller |
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43 | N52A | 6/1922 | Wood |
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44 | N52A | 7/1922 | Wood | Cupola top | |||
45 | N52A | 7/1922 | Wood |
Cupola top Collection: Dave Keller |
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46 | N52A | 7/1922 | Wood |
Cupola top
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47 | N52A | 7/1922 | Wood | Cupola top | |||
48 | N52A | 7/1922 | Wood | Cupola Top. Wrecked at Glen Cove: 1942 (Robt. Emery data) and scrapped. Number reassigned. | |||
48 | NX23A | 8/1913 | Wood |
Bay window: external frame, end platforms. Arrived from the PRR in 1947.
Photo was taken along the Main Line near
Woodside c.1948 Info: Dave Keller
NX23A #48 stencil build date 8/1913 zoom Info: Art Huneke
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49 | NX23A |
8/08/13 |
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Bay window: external frame, end platforms. Arrived from the PRR in 1947. Arrived from the PRR in 1947. ex #492754 PRR built Wartime Emergency Cabin Car Bay window ex-PRR #492754 LIRR #49 as painted by: George Wybenga. He is noted for watercolor painting of prototypical items. PRR #492754 Caboose NX23A rebuilt by PRR from external braced framed boxcar. Renumbered LIRR #49 in 1947 Comment: Dave Keller - LIRR Historian |
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50 | N22 | IRCC: 5/1958 | STL |
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![]() 11751 'MINEOLA' Oyster Bay 02/2008 |
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When OBRM was located at Mitchel Field, before our move up to Oyster Bay, we were approached by the Mayor of Mineola with the idea of using our caboose as a part of their celebration of their 150th anniversary of Mineola. They paid to move #50 from MF to the grounds of the Library where it was placed on a piece of track and on display for a little over a year. Then they took care of moving it up to our yard where it is placed on a piece of track that our volunteers built where it has resided since then. We also received the piece of track it was sitting on, so since the crane was already paid for, we had the track placed nearby and moved caboose #12 onto it, freeing up a spot in the north west corner of our yard. 11501 is Mineola zip code which they painted with Mineola on both sides. At one time, we had just painted the North facing side, but left the South side with the zip and town name. OBRM-Gary Farkash Disposition: Last verified 3/2020 OBRM Oyster Bay, NY. |
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51 | N22 | IRCC: 5/1958 | STL |
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No bay window, no cupola top (renumbered C-51) |
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Stored serviceable in West Babylon Maintainer's yard on the Central Branch
about 2 miles west of Babylon on the corner of Henry Ave and Albin Ave. It's
still there
as of 4/13/10 Info: Kevin Katta
Disposition: Owned and rostered by the LIRR, stored in Babylon Team yard off
the Central Branch. Used by the engineering Dept for storage. 3/2020 |
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52 | N22 | IRCC: 5/1958 | STL |
![]() Holban Yard 6/01/1958 (Votava-Keller) |
No bay window, no cupola top (renumbered C-52) (Scrapped 1975) Possibly suffered an interior fire in early 1970s, Spotted in Richmond Hill deadline in 1972, relocated to Corona yards in Flushing for scrapping photos exist from both locations Confirmed (2020) Joe Vila |
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53 | N22 | IRCC: 5/1958 | STL |
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No bay window, no cupola top (renumbered C-53)
Owned by Friends of Locomotive 35 (OBRM) and donated to Lindenhurst Preservation
Society Station Museum – Lindenhurst, NY Last verified: (2020) Joe Vila |
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54 | N22 | IRCC: 5/1958 | STL |
No bay window, no cupola top (renumbered C-54)
Stored serviceable in Holban Yard Paul Strubeck |
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55 | N22 | IRCC: 5/1958 | STL |
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No bay window, no cupola top (renumbered C-55)
Disposition unknown (scrapped) info needed as of
10/2021 Joe Vila |
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56 | N22A | IRCC: 1961 | STL |
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Stored serviceable in Holban Yard Info: Paul Strubeck 1/12/2019 left LIRR
on flat car Frontier Metals in Ohio they were awarded the scrapping contract
in 2017 saved last minute by the Grey -Briefly renumbered MW-1 and painted
in the “coast guard scheme” likely in the 1980s |
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57 | N22A | IRCC: 1961 | STL |
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58 | N22A | IRCC: 1961 | STL |
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No bay window, no cupola top (renumbered C-58) Now at Tennessee Valley R.R. Museum ITVRM), Chattanooga, TN |
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59 | N22A | IRCC: 1961 | STL |
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C-59 after a repaint in 8/65. It was taken
at the Hillside yd. (Holban). That's the old Ideal Toy Co. factory in
the background. Photo: Robert B. Dunnet, Archive: John Scala Disposition unknown (scrapped) info needed as of 10/2021 Joe Vila |
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60 | N22A | IRCC: 1/61 | STL |
![]() No bay window Renumbered C-60 5/4/'03 Twin Forks Chapter NRHS Riverhead, NY |
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61 | N22A | IRCC: 1961 | STL |
1992 on the Greenport Fantrip,
at Greenport, NY 1/12/2019 left LIRR on flat car Frontier Metals in Ohio they were awarded the scrapping contract in 2017 saved last minute by the Grey Granite RR Gladstone Berry, CT. Verified 2020: Joe Vila |
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62 | N22B | IRCC: 2/05/1963 | STL |
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Bay window – Renumbered C-62 – Became
NY&A C-62 Location east of Route 110 approx.150'. Photo from end of Republic Station platform |
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One time used as a Christmas car, and the NYA considered using it as an executive car at one point. |
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LIRR required NYA to man the Stone Train Photo
Location: Maspeth Yard 1997. The the rock train heading out to Prima
Asphalt, Holtsville, NY with ore jennies. time were being used for the GROW
tunneling project in Maspeth. The rock that was removed to build the tunnel
was transported to Prima Asphalt in Holtsville, NY. For most of the first
few years of the NYA, this was a unit train that ran weeknights (and
sometimes on weekends). |
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Ownership transferred to NYAR in May 1997 with
the lease of freight service, subleased to Louisville & Indiana RR (LIRC an
Anacostia Pacific subsidiary) Date ?
LIRC renumbered #105. Last known photo from 2014 (Terry Redeker) Now Louisville & Indiana Railroad (LIRC) #105 Photo Location: Jeffersonville, IN |
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63 | N22B | IRCC: 2/05/1963 | STL |
![]() C63 new upon arrival-Holban Yd, Hollis, NY 3/03/63 Archive: Dave Keller Build date: 2/05/63 |
Bay window Renumbered C-63 5/4/'03 to
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Donated to Twin Forks- NRHS 2003, restoration to service began 2019, Stored at LIRR team yard, Riverhead. Joe Vila |
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64 | N22B | IRCC: 2/05/1963 | STL | ||||
![]() LIRR C64 paint shop at Morris Park Shops after receiving a fresh coat of MTA yellow and blue - June 8, 1977 Archive: Dave Keller |
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Donated to Twin Forks-NRHS in 2003, Restoration
to service began in 2019, Stored at LIRR team yard, Riverhead, NY Joe Vila |
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65 | N22B | IRCC: 2/14/1963 | STL |
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Bay window – Renumbered C-65 – Became NY&A C-65 |
Ownerships transferred to NYAR in May 1997 with the lease of freight service, restored and remains in service, Renumbered to NYA #52 stored in LIRR/NYAR Fresh Pond yard in Queens, NY -NOTE: not to be confused with N22a class of the same number. Joe Vila |
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66 | N22B | IRCC: 2/14/1963 | STL |
![]() C66 Patchogue 3/1964 Archive: Art Huneke |
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![]() Morris Park C66 move 10/16/2021 |
In service on LIRR, though currently stored
serviceable in upper Holban yard. Car was sent out to Blue Ridge Rail
restorations in the early 1990s and restored as the “Presidents Car” new
seats added, carpets, and returned to as delivered paint. |
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67 | N22B | IRCC: 2/14/1963 | STL |
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Steve Smith photo c. 2000 Update: 2004 RRCX #67 (Radar Railcar Inc.) Roanoke VA. 11/2004 |
Private ownership. Radar Railcar Inc. last
location Roanoke Va. Renumbered RRCX #67. Last photo: :11/2004
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68 | N22B | IRCC: 2/14/1963 | STL |
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Renumbered C-68 and donated to RMLI, Riverhead,
NY. Cosmetically restored and used as display on an isolated panel track. Note: Only caboose known to retain its original windows and was not upgraded with FRA 233 glazing in the 1970's. Last Verified: 2020 Joe Vila |
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69 | N22B | IRCC: 2/14/1963 | STL |
![]() C69 10/10/1964 Photo/Archive: Joseph P. Saitta
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Currently Stored, LIRR Dunkirk
yard, Queens, NY. Used in service until 2016. OOS after a “claimed”
discovery of pealing paint containing lead. |
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70 | N22B | IRCC: 2/14/1963 | STL | ||||
Ownership transferred to NYAR in May 1997 with the lease of freight service. Renumbered C-70. Stored in 65th Street yard, Brooklyn for 5 years, Burned by vandals in 2003(?). Offered to Twin Forks-NRHS, after pillaging before scrapping, as the fire did too much damage to salvage the car. Srapped by Gershow Recycling (Brooklyn) in 2004 Joe Vila |
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Special Instruction 1038-J-2 and on ETT 1967: "1160-E Cabin cars numbered 62-70 inclusive and No. 80 are restricted between Dunton and Brook account close side clearance." Info: Paul Strubeck |
Photos: Steve Hoskins unless otherwise noted.
LIRR's Caboose Fleet: 21st Century Status |
#1 Twin Forks scrapped c.2015. #2 owned by OBRM. Scrapped 2018. #12 Owned by OBRM #14 Greenport RMLI #22 Keystone,” Summer 1987 LIRR Caboose roster by Bob Kaelin, the #22 is shown as sold, moved to Manorville June 1957, and then scrapped. #29, at the Seashore Trolley Museum, in Kennebunkport, MA. To be relocated Spring 2020 to South Portland, MA that already contains 800 feet of former track, still intact, to be restored and used as an Air B&B. #38 at Camp Pa-Qua-Tuck, Center Moriches, NY verified 3/2020 C-50 OBRM. Last verified: 3/2020 C-51 is buried (behind other cars) in the Babylon team yard. Last verified: 3/2020 C-52 Used by NYA in 2019 on the Positive Train Control (PTC) test train. (Scrapped 1975) Possibly suffered an interior fire in early 1970s, Spotted in Richmond Hill deadline in 1972, relocated to Corona yards in Flushing for scrapping photos exist from both locations Confirmed (2020) C-53 Owned by Lindenhurst Historical society-Donated by OBRM Last verified: 2020 C-54 Scrapped: confirmation needed. 1/12/2019 left LIRR on flat car Frontier Metals in Ohio they were awarded the scrapping contract in 2017 C-55 Unknown (scrapped) information needed. C-56 January 12, 2019 left LIRR on flat car Frontier Metals in Ohio they were awarded the scrapping contract in 2017 saved last minute by the Grey -Briefly renumbered MW-1 and painted in the “coast guard scheme” likely in the 1980's Granite RR Gladstone Berry, CT. Verified 2020 C-57 Located at Schiff Scout Reservation in Wading River Last verified: 2020 C-58 Was at TVRM, now at the Hoosier Valley Museum, North Judson, IN Last verified: 2020 C-59 Unknown (scrapped) information needed. C-60 To Twin Forks and restored orange/black in late 2008/early 2009, leased to NYC Transit Museum in April 2009 with lease renewed in 2019. Last verified: 2020 C-61 January 12, 2019 left LIRR on flat car Frontier Metals in Ohio they were awarded the scrapping contract in 2017 saved last minute by the Grey Granite RR Gladstone Berry, CT. (Verified 2020) C-62 Ownership transferred to NYAR in May 1997 with the lease of freight service, subleased to Louisville & Indiana RR (Anacostia Pacific subsidiary, date?). Renumbered on LIRC #105. C-63 Donated to Twin Forks-NRHS in 2003, restoration to service began in 2019, Stored at LIRR team yard, Riverhead, NY C-64 Donated to Twin Forks-NRHS in 2003, restoration to service began in 2019, Stored at LIRR team yard, Riverhead, NY C-65 Ownerships transferred to NYAR in May 1997 with the lease of freight service, restored in service. Renumbered to NYA #52 stored in LIRR/NYAR Fresh Pond yard in Queens, NY -NOTE: not to be confused with N22a class of the same number. C-66 In service on LIRR, though currently stored serviceable in upper Holban yard. Sent to Blue Ridge Rail restorations in the early 1990s and restored 3/1997 as the “Presidents Car” with new seats added, carpets, and returned to as delivered paint. Repainted by LIRR Freight Dept in 2013 and dedicated to Road Conductor Sherri Hine (McKenna) as her Family has had a LIRR employee since the early 1900's. Used for Retirement Special for Engineer Gene Buckley’s “Final Run” 9/01/2022 C-67 Private ownership. (Radar Railcar Incorporated) Last know location was in Roanoke, VA. Renumbered to RRCX #67. Photo dated 11/2004. October 5, 2012 - left Roanoke, VA headed for George’s Creek Ry. with reporting marks VGNX 67. Currently in Maryland most recent photo 6/2019. Verification: for sale on GCK RY. 2020. C-68 Donated to RMLI, and is currently on their grounds in Riverhead, NY. Cosmetically restored and used as display on isolated panel track. Note: Only caboose known to retain its original windows and was not upgraded with FRA 233 glazing in the 1970's. Last Verified: 2020 C-69 Currently stored in LIRR Dunkirk yard, Queens, NY. Used on Oyster Bay Branch work trains in 10/2018. Out of service after a “claimed” discovery of pealing paint containing lead. Car remains serviceable, but has not been used. It was intended to be used as a shoving platform for work trains. Interior- bunks removed. Walk over seats removed. cold water tank, sink, WC, and lockers still in place. Last Verified: 2020 Note: The only hack to receive reflective striping. C-70 Ownership transferred to NYAR in May 1997 with the lease of freight service. Stored in 65th Street yard, Brooklyn for 5 years, Burned by vandals around 2003(?). Scrapped by Gershow Recycling, Brooklyn) in 2004. Thanks to Joe Vila for the 2020 verifications indicated. Note: The information is subject to change without notice as owners my sell/scrap without ordering or contacting the local preservation groups. |
LIRR's Steel Caboose Fleet: N22 Class Paint Schemes |
LIRR's Steel Caboose
Fleet: Vol.12, No. 3 Twin
Forks Chapter "The Railway Post Office"
"... As delivered, all of
the new hacks were painted in bright safety orange paint, with a black
chassis, trucks and lettering, as well as yellow handrails. On the sides
were the "Dashing Dan" logo placed above the all capital, block
style sans-serif "LONG ISLAND" lettering. [This
is the N22x class series delivered 05/1958 - 02/14/63, Units 50-71: Info:
Dave Keller] In the 1970's, the colors of the
fleet were modernized to correspond with the new Metropolitan
Transportation Authority colors, those being blue and yellow. Hack
C-51 was among the first to be repainted, and featured an all yellow car
body, blue roof and ends, as well as a large 2 tone light blue/dark blue
"M" logo on the end, with small hand drawn numbers in the
center. Hacks C-60 and C-80 received a similar scheme but had blue
ends and yellow sides.
A more refined paint scheme came
about soon after, with a crisper decal appearance, italicized LONG
ISLAND along the sides, as well as a smaller "M" logo on the
end, which was to be removed from most hacks later on; leaving just the
LONG ISLAND lettering. The colors remained the same for the most part with
yellow car bodies, blue roofs, steps and doors. Fast forwarding into current times, most of the hacks that are still owned by the LIRR that have since been repainted back to all orange, but with blue roofs and steps, and only their numbers on the sides. There are some exceptions to this as hack C-51 is all orange with a black roof, and black non-italicized "LONG ISLAND" on the side. C-61 retained its yellow and blue paint, and features a special name plaque in honor of Freight Conductor J. J. Sherman. In the early 1990's, N22b C-66 was sent to Blue Ridge Rail Restorations, where it was rebuilt and upgraded with new seats, floors and the like; and was to be used as the "Presidents Car". This car was also painted back into the Dashing Dan scheme...." The orange and blue hacks were repainted by the LIRR in the late 1990's: Info: Paul Strubeck 51: New LIRR Blue/Orange hack scheme |
Special Thanks to Paul Strubeck for input/photos/and documentation. 10/27/2007 |