LIRR Passenger/Baggage/Combine/RPO Car Photo History

Roster: LIRR Early Passenger Cars
Research: Vincent Seyfried LIRR History Vol VII

Roster: LIRR Steel Coaches & Electric M.U. with conversions
Research: Henry Raudenbush and Jeff Erlitz, courtesy of George Chiasson

Roster: LIRR Passenger-Baggage-Combine-Cars
LIRR Passenger-Baggage-Combine-Cars Additional Data
           LIRR Passenger-Baggage-Combine-Cars Supplementary Notes 
Research Koehler, Seyfried, MTA 1972

Roster: LIRR Modernization Numbers - Old Cars
Research: Bob Kingman

Roster: LIRR Steel and Composite Passenger Car Roster 
           LIRR Steel Passenger Car Roster Notes
Research: Jeff Erlitz 2/10/2020

Here's a very faded Tuscan Red MB62 leading an MP72C and either a MP72T or a T72 into Jamaica. On the right, leaving Jamaica, are a MP54B or MP54C and another arch roofed "54", both in the later "Tichy" paint scheme with Brunswick Green (?), or black, roofs. The first MP72C cars were built 7/1955, the first MP72T cars 8/1955 and the first T72 cars 10/1955. Since the trees are bare and the sun is low in the sky this is probably late 1955 or early 1956. Info: Jeff Erlitz Collection: Bill J. Madden

A MB62, or for that matter, any LIRR MU in Tuscan Red, and a pretty badly faded TR, is quite a surprise if not an anomaly as the Tichy paint scheme came into being in November 1949.  And yet, five or six years later, there's still a car in Tuscan Red with gold lettering!  By this time, cars are being rebuilt and repainted into the dark or smoky gray paint scheme, which means it is possible this car (number unknown) may have been rebuilt, but definitely repainted into the dark or smoky gray paint scheme, unless it was scrapped. Thus, there's a possibility that this car, if it stayed in service NEVER got the Tichy paint scheme. Info: Mike Boland

Victorian Coaches Wason Manufacturing Co. 1889 30 coaches #229-258 65' length seats 72 
sold #230,231,236,239 to Georgia Car & Loco Co. 7/1927
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LIRR #236
T39 Wason Manufacturing Co. 1899 30 wooden-trailer cars  #877-906 built for Jamaica-Brooklyn Bridge service. Rebuilt in Morris Park Shops 1905 for use as trailers with MP41 cars. Discontinued use 12/17/1914 and sold 1917.
 #892 1899 - Dunton Car Shops Archive: Jeff Erlitz
MB45 Wason Manufacturing Co. 1905 5 MU Wood Baggage 1200-1204 Sold 1917 to Washington, Baltimore & Annapolis RR
LIRR MB45 #1201 Collection of Electric Railroaders’ Assoc, Inc Archive: Jeff Erlitz
Combine baggage/passenger Pullman Palace Car Co. 1898 #501-520 sold 1926 to Georgia Car & Loco Co. lirr505_builderphoto_1898.jpg (68451 bytes)
LIRR #505 builder photo 1898
Parlor Car Pullman 1902 #789-796  Eight vestibule  6-wheel trucks 
Length: 78' - 8"; 41 revolving seats; all converted to coaches after 1911-1916
#789 Sold to Georgia Company: 6/1927
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Wooden Pullman Parlor Car #789
1902 Archive: Dave Keller
Private Business Car Jackson & Sharp 1885
MANHATTAN private business car diagram

MANHATTAN private business car - Builder's photo
outside the Jackson & Sharp Co. plant 1885 (Votava-Keller)

 Austin Corbin's private business car "MANHATTAN"



Open Vestibule Coach Jackson & Sharp 1890

Wooden steam coach #347 Jackson & Sharp 1890 Archive: MTA-LIRR

Closed Vestibule Jackson & Sharp,
1898 Last wooden car produced for LIRR 1898  
Day Coach Jackson & Sharp 1899 In 1876 Jackson & Sharp received a Centennial Award at the Philadelphia Centennial Exhibition, in the “railway plant, rolling stock, engines” category for its passenger, boudoir, and library cars. LIRR received in 1899.


Hospital Car


Coach #117 Destroyed
by fire 8/20/1910

LIRR #117 Hospital Car interior view outfitted, as a hospital car. View from operating room into Ward room in 1901. Archive: John Lisi

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LIRR #117 Hospital Car 1897

LIRR #117 Hospital Car - Loco Engineering- page 771-774

Superintendent’s Car Pullman 1902-1909
  Jackson & Sharp 1906-1935-8?
E-6 Open Air Car Used for Beach runs
Gas Electric Scoots
Battery: Edison
Brill Gas Car J.G Brill Company 1914-1926
Trolley Car 

B74a Pullman Horse Express Cars: The numbering of B-74a was changed from 5551-5555, 5561-5565, and 5766-5775 to 5800-5819 at the time the names were applied. Over the years various names were applied to the cars. 

Capacity 24 horses; two stalls on each side of the three doors.

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LIRR #143 - Hicksville - Horse express car Class B74a 1947 Archive: Dave Keller
B74b Pullman #5820-5869

PRR #5844 Horse Express car interior "Garden State Racing Association" Collection: Charles Horan
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PRR B74b Horse express car - "Eastern Racing Association  Suffolk Downs" Massachusetts. This is an example of Horse Car class B74b also used on the LIRR. Info: Dave Keller
The PRR horse cars were class B74a/b. From the outside they looked like baggage cars except they had 3 doors per side and a pair of stalls on either side of the doors to transport twenty-four horses maximum. The PRR named all the cars; Atlantic City Racing Association, Aqueduct, Dell Mar Turf Club, Metropolitan Jockey Club, etc.  DD1-340-Tichy Scheme_PRR-B74b-horsecar-from-Brandywine Stables_near-Jamaica_1950-Keller.jpg (82337 bytes)
DD1 #340 in Tichy Scheme - PRR B74b horse express car "Brandywine Stables" near Jamaica 1950 Archive: Dave Keller

T62   1932 200 The first double decker car built, lacking both motors and controls, but was also the FIRST ALL ALUMINUM railroad car produced.  Info: Dave Keller
LIRR #200 double decker
LIRR #200 RMLI-Riverhead 8/26/2007
T70 1937 201

LIRR #201 - Jamaica

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The railroad's fleet of pre-war double deckers in the years before the post-war fleet of 60 cars began to arrive in 1947. Double-deckers #201 and #1347 at Babylon Yard with MP54A #1418 and MP54C #1728 on March 8, 1947. Photo: George Votava Archive: Mike Boland
T70A   1947 202-205  
MP70   1937 1347  
MP70A PRR-Juniata, 4/1947 1947 1341-1346

LIRR #1343 (PRR-Juniata, 4-1947) newly
arrived 5/23/1947 Archive: Jeff Erlitz

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LIRR #1346 Photo: R. Glueck

LIRR #1346 - West Hempstead
MP70B   1948

LIRR #1326 - Babylon

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LIRR #132x Photo: R. Glueck
C3 Kawasaki 1997-

134 cars  23 Cab controlled cars

Budd 1955- 1967 Sold 12/71

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LIRR #3101 RDC1 at Greenport 9/27/1959

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LIRR #3121 RDC2 with Trailer 
at South Hampton 1956

B40  AC&F 4-5/1914  #651-670

Blueprint Class B40 LIRR REA Car Lettering
Center Door Altoona Shops 4/13/1931 eBay

More Info on B40 Baggage Cars

B40 #652 Archive: Art Huneke

Starting in December of 1954, the LIRR began an extensive modernization program of all classes of equipment that included complete mechanical rebuilding, new interiors and new numbers to reflect the upgrading. The newly reworked cars were numbered into four number series: 4000 for control motors, 5000 for motor trailers, 6000 for MU trailers, and 7000 for steam coaches.
BUS Pullman Standard 1950 A five double bedroom buffet lounge observation car Chesapeake & Ohio 2502 TIDEWATER CLUB. Acquired by Baltimore & Ohio in 1951; redesignated B&O 7500 NAPPANEE. Assigned to the Capitol Limited. Acquired by LIRR in October 1968. AMAGANSETT.

Amagansett #2000 diagram - LIRR 1977

Photo/Archive: Mike Boland

Redesignated LIRR 2000 MORRIS PARK in 1976 after conversion to push-pull capability. Modified as a tunnel clearance car in 1990. Retired and sold to Roanoke Valley Central Railway in Salem, VA c.1999. Acquired by Blue Ridge Rail Restorations and stored in Salem VA. October 2008: Car has been moved and in Romney, WV on South Branch Valley RR/Potomac Eagle Scenic Railway. Research: John Deasy

P54 American Car & Foundry 1912 Steam Cars #139-179, were ex-PRR cars with clerestory roofs and came in 1930 to replace 50 P54D "pings" that were converted to MU control motors 1944 to 1983, later renumbered into the 4000 series.

PRR Altoona Shops Blueprint D-95443-B Passenger Lettering LIRR MP54, MP54A, P54A-C issue 6/17/1931 obsolete 5/02/1938

LIRR #316 Builders photo 5/1911 Archive: Jeff Erlitz
Collection of Electric Railroaders’ Assoc, Inc

This blueline print illustrates the lettering arrangement for the following car classes:


P54A  American Car & Foundry 1911-1914

#314-370 Scrapped at Holban Yard, 1952


P54B American Car & Foundry 1913-1918  #379-388
P54D American Car & Foundry 1927 #1-138 74 cars modernized starting 12/1954 and renumbered as part of 7000 series (7002-7481, not all inclusive) Referred to as "Ping Pongs"

P54D #1 Richmond Hill Receiving Yard turntable
Late 1960's
(Henry Maywald-Mike Boland)

P54D #7129 Richmond Hill - Late 1960's
(Henry Maywald-Mike Boland)

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LIRR  #433 Jamaica 11/27/32

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LIRR #7470 Ronkonkoma 12/19/1971

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P54 blueprint c.1925

P54E American Car & Foundry 10/1923 10 clerestory-roof cars #452-461
P69 Osgood Bradley 1925 Purchased from the D&H 8/1962 nos. 8517-8522
IRR 8517-8520  ex-D&H  208-211
8521 ex-D&H 219
8522 ex-D&H 221  Note: 8518 built 1926

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LIRR #8522 ex D&H #221 Photo: R. Glueck

LIRR #8520 ex-D&H #211 (Lichenstern-Boland)
P70 American Car & Foundry 1911-1913 after 1926 converted to coaches after Pullman Extra Services Takeover 808-826 lirr824_P70_COACH_former-Parlor-Car_Morris-Park-Yard_1962_WilliamRigen.jpg (122014 bytes)
LIRR #824, former parlor car, Morris Park Yard
1962 Photo: William Rigen
P71 Osgood Bradley 1924 8506-8509  ex-MEC 218-221 84 seat coach
Purchased LIRR: 6/1962

LIRR P71 #8507 9/30/1962 Archive: Mike Boland

P71A Osgood Bradley 1931 8510-8513  ex-MEC 262-265 68 seat coach
LIRR P71A #8513 - Receiving Yard 1/10/1969
Archive: Mike Boland
P72 Pullman Standard 1955-1956

Nos. 2901-2980 except
2949 & 2957

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LIRR #2970 LI City 4/1970 Photo: Jim Parker

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 LIRR #2932 P72 - Port Jefferson 1965
Note:  steam heat connector by air lines underneath coupler. John Deasy
P72 Bar Pullman Standard Rebuilt 1975

2990-2992, former 2905, 2970, 2957

P72A Pullman Standard 1955 2801-2844
P72G / Bar
P73L Pullman Standard 1916 Acquired from EL in September 1962. Redesignated LIRR 2038 SETAUKET in May 1963 and operated as parlor lounge observation until September 1968. Renumbered W-99 and reclassified as business car in 1970. In 1971, renumbered as (2nd) 99 and renamed (2nd) JAMAICA. Transferred to Maintenance of Equipment section. Last used approximately 1975.

Parlor Obs. #99 2nd JAMAICA in MTA colors - Richmond Hill storage yard 11/03/1973 (Votava-Keller)

SETAUKET in EL colors - Jamaica 1/1963
Archive: Dave Keller

SETAUKET near Clinton Rd., Garden City 11/1967

  American Car & Foundry 1912 Converted to a coach (class PP70A) after 1926. LIRR #815. Rebuilt to (open platform) business car LIRR #2000 MONTAUK 12/1925. Renamed JAMAICA as parlor observation car after 1957. Withdrawn 1968 and stored until 1972. Donated/displayed Wantagh Museum, NY 1972.
Jamaica #2000 Class P73L - Richmond Hill 9/25/1960
Archive: Dave Morrison
P74A Pullman Standard 1924 2001-2003
P74B Osgood Bradley - PS 1935-37

Built for the Boston & Maine for general long-distance service. Cars #7521-7530  received: 9-10/1958    Cars #7531-7550 received: 1-8/1959  Research: Jeff Erlitz

LIRR P74B #7546 MTA scheme (Votava-Boland)

LIRR P74B #7547 (Votava-Boland)
P74B1 Osgood Bradley - PS



Built for the BAR for buffet coach service. Cars: #8551-8553 Purchased 6/1962. Modernized: 1/1963 Scrapped: 5/1973 8552: 9/13/1972
LIRR #8553 ex-BAR #152 (Collora-Boland)

LIRR #8551 ex-BAR #150 (Votava-Boland)
P74D Parlor Pullman Standard
HEAVYWEIGHT Parlor cars 6-wheel trucks
1923-27 2013-2036

Parlor 28-1 WYANDANCH #2023 Riverhead Yard c.1963 Archive: Mike Boland

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LIRR #2020 "PATCHOGUE" Montauk Yard 05/15/66
P80 Budd, Pullman 1946-48 13 cars 531-543 13 Steam Coach  retired 1972 Silver Streak Cars
P80 Budd
529 ex-New York Central 2938
530 ex-New York Central 86-Samuel J. Tilden
531 ex-New York Central 3005
532 ex-New York Central 3049
533 ex-New York Central 3063
534 ex-New York Central 3067
535 ex-New York Central 3073
536 ex-New York Central 3075
537 ex-New York Central 3064
538 ex-New York Central 3101
539 ex-New York Central 3126
540 ex-New York Central 3133
541 ex-New York Central 3136
542 ex-New York Central 3147
543 ex-New York Central 314

LIRR #541 coach ex-NYC #3136 at Richmond Hill. 5/26/1968 Photo: Gene Collora Archive: Mike Boland
NYC sold c.6/1967 to Pickens RR. rebuilt. LIRR purchase 10-11/1967. Car #86 Samuel J. Tilden purchased 12/1967. Named “Pickens cars” by MOE Dep't  'Silver Streak' by everyone else.

LIRR #530 was a one-of-a-kind car on LIRR. It was built by Budd in 1941 as a parlor car with 30 seats and 1 drawing room for NYC's new streamlined Empire State Express. When acquired by LIRR in 1967, it was converted to a 24 seat coach with bar. Note: Five of the large windows on this side of the car were blanked during the conversion.   Photo: George Votava Archive: Dave Keller

P80A Parlor Pullman Standard 1939-40  13 cars 2051-2063 Acquired in 1968 Retired 1975-76  
      2051 Pantigo
2052 Patchogue
2053 Peconic
2054 Ponquogue
2055 Wantagh
2056 Wauwepex
2057 Wickapogue
2058 Wunneweta
2059 Napeague
2060 Nesconset
2061 Noyack
2062 Wyandanch
2063 Poquott

Parlor Car Interiors

POQUOTT #2063 Parlor  Shelter Island Express
Greenport 8/1971 Photo/Archive: Dave Keller

POQUOTT #2063 Class P80A Pullman Standard 1939  6 double
bedroom buffet lounge ex-PRR #8139 PINE FALLS floor plan


LIRR Class P80A Pullman Standard 1939 6 double bedroom buffet lounge bedroom side

LIRR Class P80A Pullman Standard 1939 6 double bedroom buffet lounge passageway side
P80B Pullman Standard for Louisiana and Arkansas, a KCS subsidiary. 1948 Former KCS, ex-L&A, 14 roomette 4 double bedroom sleeper acquired September 1968 utilized in LIRR East-end parlor service:

Repainted in spring/summer 1971 to LIRR colors. Retired 1975. Sold to Tuman Demolition Company; scraped 1976.

ex-KCS "Job Edson" at Babylon Station - 10/24/68 
Photo/Archive: Dave Keller

The ex-L&A car "Job Edson" is LI 2048, one of three ex-L&A cars built by Pullman in 1948 and bought by LI in August, 1968, and assigned LI class P80B. LI numbers were applied immediately to vestibules only. Built as 24-seat 14-roomette 4-double bedroom cars. The others were "Leonore Loree" which became LI 2049, and "William Edenborn" which became LI 2050.

Repainted into LI colors in May (2050), June (2049) and August (2048), 1971. 2048 was assigned LI name "Manhasset" (2nd car so named), 2049 was assigned LI name "Massapequa" (second car so named) and 2050 was assigned "Mastic" (second car so named), but the names were never actually applied to the car sides when repainted. All three were sold to E. Tuman Demolition.

ex-KCS "Job Edson" at Richmond Hill
5/1969 Photo/Archive: Bill Mangahas
P80C American Car & Foundry 1940-1948 Former KCS coaches 251-266 renumbered:
8554 ex-KCS 251
8555 " 252
8556 " 253
8557 " 254
8558 " 255
8559 " 256
8560 " 257
8561 " 258
8562 " 259
8563 " 261
8564 " 262
8565 " 263
8566 " 264
8567 " 265
8568 " 266
8573 " 260
Note: The gap between 8569 and 8572 used to number the Florida East Coast coaches, class P80D, with names and not numbers. Mike Boland

ex-KCS #265 coach - Richmond Hill Storage Yard  1968
Archive: Dave Keller

LIRR #8560 ex-KCS #257 Ronkonkoma 7/14/1979
Photo: George Votava Archive: Mike Boland

P80D Budd 1946 Sold to the LIRR 1/1969 repainted 1970 coaches. Retired 1974.
8569 Boynton
8570 Homestead
8571 Bunnell
8572 Titusville (retained name)

LIRR #8570 ex-FEC HOMESTEAD Richmond Hill

ex-FEC BOYNTON - Richmond Hill 1/1969


  Budd 5/1947 LIRR 1/1969, retired 9/1975 sold 1976

Operated in its FEC paint scheme until being repainted, relettered, and renumbered 'APAQUOGUE' #2064 6/9/1971.  Used as a lounge-observation car on parlor CANNONBALL car trains.

ex-FEC "LAKE OKEECHOBEE" 1969 used as a CANNONBALL parlor to Montauk. Photo/Archive: Jim Mardiguian
P80E ACF 1907 1st #1451 converted to Private Club car "SMITHTOWN" retired 1942
P50E Class Private Club Car "SMITHTOWN" ex-1451
Photo: Bill Lichenstern Archive: Mike Boland
P80F American  Car & Foundry 1949 No. 2073 “TUCKAHOE

TUCKAHOE #2073 LIRR diagrams 1977
Archive: Jeff Erlitz

P80G Budd 1949 Nos. 2081-2082

AQUEBOGUE #2081 and ASHAROKEN #2082 LIRR diagrams 1977 Archive: Jeff Erlitz

P80H American  Car & Foundry 1949

Nos. 2180-2185 Sold to MTA 1971, transferred to LIRR 5/1974. Only 2182 and 2194 repainted LIRR.

LIRR #2181 former EL PC coach interior Photo/Archive: Tim Darnell

LIRR #2181 ex-DL&W, El, PC coach
Photo/Archive: Tim Darnell

LIRR #2183 ex-EL "Phoebe Snow" ex-MTA coach
Montauk 6/22/1975 (Votava-Boland)

P80J Pullman Standard 1949 Nos. 2186-2194  

PB54 American Car & Foundry 1911 5 cars #619-623 steel

PRR Altoona Shops Blueprint D-95446-B Passenger Lettering LIRR MPB54, PB54 issue 6/17/1931 obsoleted 5/02/1938

LIRR PB54 #621  c.10/1911 Builders photo Electric Railroaders’ Association, Inc. Archive: Jeff Erlitz
PB54A   1914 3 cars #624-626 steel  
PB54B   1917 #627 steel  
PB57 American Car & Foundry 10/1927 610-618








Modernized 10/1958 and renumbered #7614 Scrapped 9/13/1972 by Naporano Iron and Metal Company, Newark NJ

Note the "Futura" lettering which was considered VERY modern for 1939-40. Info: Jeff Erlitz

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LIRR #7613 PB57 combine Oyster Bay 
Photo: R. Glueck

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LIRR #7614 Richmond Hill Coach Yard c.1940
Archive: Jeff Erlitz


“M” designating the unit to be a “motor” or powered control cab and the “P” meaning “passenger”, while the “54” was the length of the car, bulkhead to bulkhead. As an aside, an MU baggage car was an “MPB54” because it was powered, it carried passengers AND it carried baggage. However, the electrics were MP54  or T54 units (“T” meaning trailer; non-powered).  And some of the OLDER, original purchase MP54 units had clerestory roofs and not the famous arched roofs.   Information: Dave Keller

MP54 means Motor/Passenger car which is 54' long. (there were also "blind motors" which were MP54 cars with no windshields and which were placed within the consist of a train to provide additional power to assist the lead MP54 which was NOT blind. Sort of like a steam locomotive coupled in the middle of a freight train with no view of the road ahead, positioned only to assist the lead steam locomotive(s) in hauling the train. 

MPB54 means Motor/Passenger/Baggage car which is 54' long (known as a "combine car.")
T39, T54 means Trailer cars (no motors) which are 39' or 54' long and were placed in trains with a motor car (MP54) at either end.
MPBM54 means Motor/Passenger/Baggage/Mail cars which are 54' long.
MBM62 means Motor/Baggage/Mail cars which are 62' long, with no vestibules.
The suffixes on the same number cars (MP54a, MP54b, MP54c, etc.) meant various changes such as arched roofs vs. clerestory roofs, etc.)  Research: Dave Keller

Earlier MP54 and MP54A cars had their controls removed, but were not rebuilt (with ASC) and remained in service as mid-train motor trailer cars, since they also had weak collision posts, which was pointed out after the 1950 crashes.  Eight cars in the 1600 series of MP54A cars did, indeed, get ASC and finished their decades of service as control motor cars with ASC and were  occasionally seen at the headend of a train. (Control motors 1632, 1634, 1641, 1651, 1661, 1665, 1666) And, of course, there was CT54A #1677, club car "ROCKAWAY",  which remained a control trailer with ASC) but some of these cars, 1641, 1651 and 1661 had their ASC removed in later years. Research: Mike Boland
Note: MP54's, were about another 10 feet longer, 5 feet for each vestibule at both ends of the car, at 64' than the MP62 series. 


MP-54 Rail Classics Jan.1981 article by Mike Boland

MP54 American Car & Foundry



1908 30 cars 1421-1450
20 cars 1401-1420 MP54A

MP54 was the first 30 cars 1421 through 1450 built by ACF at its Jackson and Sharp (merged into ACF) plant in Delaware in 1908.


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A four-car MU train eastbound apparently headed for Port Washington in the late 1930's. The second car east is a trailer and note the combine at the rear(!) of the train. Many MP54's and MP54A's had large headlight housings replace their original small headlights while retaining their destination lights, seen on both sides of the headlight. These were removed in later years. At this time LIRR passenger fleet wore Tuscan Red with black roof and gold lettering. Photo: George Votava Archive: Mike Boland  

MP54 #1422 train - Argyle siding west of Babylon
View NW c.1948 Archive: Dave Keller

MP54 #1428 as trailer at Dunton 4/28/1968
Archive: Mike Boland
MP54A   American Car & Foundry  1908

20 cars 1401-1420  
226 cars 1451-1676
Some minor changes were made to the cars and the next class of 20 cars was MP54A built by ACF in Berwick, PA and numbered 1401 through 1420 and built beginning in 1909.    

MP54A #1660 Built by ACF 1914 passing
JAY Tower c.1915 Archive: Jeff Erlitz

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MP54A #1509-interior 10/19/1936
Archive: Mike Boland

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MP54A #1632 MPB54 #1391 Heritage cars at Port Washington 7/06/1976 (Votava-Boland)

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Babylon Yard in the 1960's. MP54A #1666 was one of ten control motor cars in this class equipped with speed control.
Occasionally a train had a consist with this car at the headend. Built in 1914, the later cars in this class had stronger collision
posts. It was scrapped on February 28, 1969.
 Photo: George Votava Archive: Mike Boland 


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MP54A #1405 outside the Dunton Car Shop on May 12, 1940. This was an order of 20 cars built by ACF and had minor differences from the 30 MP54 fleet of cars built in 1908, a year earlier. Photo: George Votava Archive: Mike Boland

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MP54A #1505 has new safety glass windows with aluminum frames. Note the trailer behind this control motor, built in 1910 and scrapped in January 1956. This car, and many others had their controls and headlights removed and ran off their last years as motor trailers in mid-train service. Rockaway Park c.1940's. Photo: George Votava Archive: Mike Boland

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MP54A #1474 leads a train with a car behind it in the new Tichy paint scheme. This car had no Automatic Speed Control (ASC) installed so this photo must have been taken prior to 1951. The car was scrapped August 1955. Archive: Mike Boland

The clerestory roof MP54 and MP54A cars, when rebuilt as motor trailers, were given class MP54T and MP54AT and were renumbered beginning with #1001 (an old MP41 number), #1002, #1003, etc. but this renumbering ended after after #1017 and the cars kept their original numbers. A few trailers were given power trucks and put into this class, also.

About 10 cars in the MP54A class were given ASC and kept their original numbers; all the rest were converted after the two 1950 crashes revealed weak collision posts that the cars had in their construction. Cars in the 1600-series had slightly stronger and thicker collision posts; this was improved with later classes of MP54's.

MP54A1  Pressed Steel Car Co.  (25 cars) & American Car & Foundry (20 cars) split car order between the LIRR and another PRR subsidiary, West Jersey and Seashore. 

These 45 cars, and the 40 P54D's converted and motorized in 1930 (MP54D1 1944 through 1983) were the last MP54's built for the LIRR.

1928-1930 45 cars 1135-1179
MP54A1 #1163, possibly Jamaica area, in Tuscan Red livery mid-1950's. This may have been the last car in
this paint scheme. Archive: Mike Boland
MP54A1 #1159 at Port Washington 4/05/1937 (Votava-Boland)

MP54A1 at the east end of an MU train in Babylon
Early 1950's. (Harold Fagerberg-Mike Boland)
MP54A1 #4160 at Babylon 4/21/1963 (Votava-Boland)

A modernized MP54A1 at the east end of a train at Union Hall Street station in the mid-1960's.
Two eastbound trains leaving Jamaica station, mid-1960's. The one on the left has a MP54A1 at its east end.
Archive: Mike Boland

The seating capacity was for 69 passengers. These cars had a special safety feature which was a door interlocking device, or signal light, indicating to the motorman that the doors are closed.  Each car had train control and had roller bearing trucks.  Additional lights made for better lighting. These new cars and the conversion of 40 P54D steam cars to control motor MP54D1's allowed the railroad to run 12-car MU trains. 

Its easiest spotting sign are the lack of deck sash and only THREE utility vents along the side of the roof for ventilation. Also, the end door is more recessed, due to improved and thickened collision posts. The cars also had end drip strips above the storm door at the ends of each car.

The cars also had two different types of trucks and these were the only cars that arrived with the large, squared-off headlight and destination lights, which were removed later. Some cars had porthole-style side and end doors, while other cars had large, single-pane side and end doors; perhaps this is a clue as to the cars' original builder. Research: Mike Boland

MP54B     #1678-1697  
The MP54C replaced the MP54B and was one of the largest classes on the LIRR. Built beginning in 1922 these cars were numbered from #1698-1777 and then #1784-1943. The gap in numbers was used to number the clerestory roof ACF-built DC cars bought from the PRR in 1923 or so when AC power took over. These cars became surplus and the Manhattan Transfer shuttle service ended.

Beginning in December 1954 with MP54C 1742, a great many of these cars were modernized and rebuilt. They retained their original number, but after about 100 cars were rebuilt, a new system of numbering was used with a "4" replacing the "1," as the first number of the car. Ex: Control motor MP54C #1742 became #4742. Note: A small number of these cars were not rebuilt and used as control motors, retaining their original number. All MP54C control motor cars, rebuilt or not rebuilt, had ASC. However, a small number of cars in the 1700-series were never rebuilt, never given ASC and operated as motor trailers in mid-train service.

A good number of MP54C cars in the 1700-series were rebuilt as motor trailers. These cars had their headlights, marker lights, wipers, whistles, controls and other gear removed. When rebuilt, these cars originally kept their same numbers, such as #1752, but this car was now without controls so to end/avoid confusion, the railroad replaced the "1" with a "5," denoting a motor trailer. Therefore, this car became #5752 and could be easily identified by LIRR employees; these cars were now classed as MP54CT. Note: This was also done to some class MP54B cars. Research: Mike Boland
MP54C American Car & Foundry 


1922-25, 1927 240 cars  #1698-1777 control motor cars

PRR Altoona Shops Blueprint D-95444 LIRR Passenger Lettering T54, T54A-B, MP54B-C issue 6/17/1931 obsoleted 5/02/1938

MP54C #1722 Hempstead 1938 (Ziel-Boland)

MP54C #1856 renumbered to #4856 Babylon 5/15/1955 (Votava-Boland)

MP54C #1731 Jamaica 1960's (Zahn-Boland)

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LIRR #4875 MP54C

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LIRR #4855 MP54C Woodside 1969

MP54C end - Dunton 1960's (Zahn-Boland)


MP54Cc American Car & Foundry  

During 1930-42 several cars received 3/2 reversible seating for about 95. Destination lights changed to red-only tail lights after 11/27/1932 after discontinuation of marker light use. Reclassified MP54Bc and MP54Cc as automatic speed control (ASC) apparatus was installed in 1951. Jeff Erlitz

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MP54Cc #1920 renumbered #4920 Jamaica 10/1969

MP54Cc #4929 Nostrand Ave.  3/01/1970

MP54Cc #4793 Richmond Hills c.1960 (Ziel-Boland)
MP54Cc #4824 Archive: Mike Boland

MP54Cc train on Atlantic Ave EL c.1956 (Maywald-Boland)
MP54D1 American Car & Foundry  7-8/1927 #1944 to #1983 were converted from class P54D steam cars (Pings) to control motor MP54D1's allowing the railroad to run 12-car MU trains.

The "T" suffix at the end of some classes, such as MP54T, MP54AT, MP54BT and MP54CT, meant the car, originally a headend car equipped with engineer's controls, had them removed along with whistle, wiper, headlights, etc. and converted to mid-train use as a motor, motorized or blind motor. This meant the car could NOT be at either end of an MU train. The equipment taken from the
cars went into stock used for other MU cars that were equipped with Automatic Speed Control (ASC) and used at headend cars when the State of New York forced the railroad to operated with this feature following the two big 1950 crashes with much loss of life. 

About half of the fleet of MU cars received ASC, the remainder did not. This was a big savings of money; in fact, the LIRR was so broke that the PRR and New York State paid for the installation of ASC. This was a new class of car; as until this time, the railroad had only control motor cars and trailers, but after 1951 this all changed. Not until 1953 and 1955, did the railroad buy new motor trailer cars, specifically built as such by Pullman-Standard. 

Many control motor cars ran in trains and did not have ASC and thus used in mid-train service, even though they specifically were NOT converted to motor trailers. With the car rehabilitation program in 1955, these cars eventually had their controls removed and were renumbered and rebuilt into the 5000-series of cars.

What I like about the LIRR is that there were always exceptions and a number of cars in the 1700-series of arch motors never were converted, and had never been given ASC. They were considered motor trailers even though they were not converted, and in later years their class was changed to indicate they were a motor trailer even when they were not in the shops to have the conversion. A car like this was arch roof 1776, a great number for the Bicentennial. Research: Mike Boland

MP54T American Car & Foundry  1908

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MP54T #1450  Port Washington view W 10/13/62

Part of the first MP54s on the LIRR, it was converted to a motor trailer with the same car number. Perhaps  the shops got lazy or forgot to removed the headlights.

Built in 1908 and was the last car of the class MP54. Car 1451and up were class MP54A; these had slight changes in seating, other modifications, and were a few  inches longer than the earlier MP54 class cars. 
Info: Mike Boland


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MP54AT #1520 at Richmond Hill 4/16/1950 (Votava-Boland)

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MP54AT #1403 in Tichy scheme - Converted to a motor trailer  - West Hempstead  5/04/1952 (Votava-Boland)

MPB54 1910 -1914


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At the Dunton Car Shop combine MPB54 #1379 had the passenger end of the car photographed on November 9, 1933.

There were subtle differences in the end details of headend MU cars.  Note the large scissors-like apparatus that operated the doors at this time; also note the cowcatcher or pilot behind the coupler and in front of the trucks, removed in the 1950's with the advent of speed control.  Collection of Ron Ziel.

MPB54 #1353 West Hempstead 6/11/1939


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LIRR  MPB54 #4398 (ex-#1398)  in Dashing Dan scheme 
Woodside Station 06/10/1969

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MPB54 #1379 Tuscan red with Dulux 
gold lettering Pre-1950

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MPB54 #1372  Tichy scheme 
Jamaica c.1955

MPB54 #1377 West Hempstead 7/08/1951 (Votava-Boland)

MB62 American Car & Foundry 1910 

Blueprint LIRR Class MB62 - REA Car Lettering (Double Door) - Altoona Shops-  4/13/1931 eBay

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MB62 at Clinton Rd. (Henry Maywald-Mike Boland)

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MB62 #4205 (Henry Maywald-Mike Boland)

The first car is one of two MU motor baggage mail cars, class MBM62 1209 and 1210 that were originally ACF in 1925 to have a mail compartment constructed at one end of the car. Some time later a small engineer's compartment door was added to the right side of the car on one side only, the side that had a 6-foot baggage door on the left. Remember, the other side of the car has the mail compartment, but the baggage end has double sliding doors that are about 8-feet wide. 

Look for the mail compartment on the two MBM62's, and that will tell you whether it's a MBM62 or a straight MB62. The MB62's have two windows between the doors and a small window at each end of the car. It's a different look for the MBM62's, a fascinating car and almost as unique as the second car in this consist, an MPBM54. 

The second car is a Motorized Passenger Baggage Mail MPBM5 car and both sides of the car are a little different in the baggage-mail area. Baggage-mail MU's were 1205-1219, although 1215 and up were used as diesel cars, with 1217-1219 running all their years as steam/diesel cars.

The third car is an regular combine, a passenger baggage car, class MPB54, one of the later ones built by ACF since
its baggage door cuts into the letterboard, unlike the earlier cars built by Standard Steel and scrapped in the 1950's. Many of these cars were modernized beginning with 4371 up to 4398, I believe. This combine might be carrying bagged mail or newspapers. Research: Mike Boland

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MU Express Mail train at Babylon: MBM62, MPBM54, MPB54  taken from the high platform at the Babylon freight house just west of Carll Avenue. ViewNE. (Votava-Keller)


MBM62 American Car & Foundry 1910 1209-1210 Mail compartments removed after 1963

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MB62 #1215 REA at Babylon 2/08/1947 (Votava-Boland)

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MU REA MB62 #4212 REA RPO Johnson Ave. yard, Jamaica 4/21/1962  (Will V. Faxon, Jr. - Dave Keller


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MBM62 RPO RMLI Riverhead View NE 2/09/2006 
Photo: Peter Cusden

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MBM62 #4209 - Johnson Ave., Jamaica 1/15/1964  
(Henry Maywald-Mike Boland)

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MBM62 #4210 (Henry Maywald-Mike Boland)


Pullman Standard 1955-56 Nos. 2101-2104 Bar Generator Cars

Bar generator car #2101 - LI City c.1980

Bar generator car #2103 - Port Jefferson c.1980

Bar generator car #2102 - Oyster Bay c.1980+

Bar generator car #2104 - Oyster Bay c.1980
Archive: Mike Boland


B60B American Car & Foundry 8/1928 715-724 1928 PRR 718 rebuilt to wreck train car W-56, 723 has been preserved
737 Mail compartment added in late forties, class changed to BM60, was rebuilt to wreck train car W-57.

Modernized 12/1955 and renumbered #7723. Withdrawn from service 1970.

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B60B #723 Archive: Jeff Erlitz


American Car & Foundry 1905 Nos. 1000-1133 first class of MU electric cars, 41' interior

LIRR MP41 #1006 passing JAY Tower c.1915
Archive: Jeff Erlitz

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LIRR MP41 #1111 Rockaway Park Yard 
1948 (Rugen-Huneke)
 Gibb's Cars 1905 BRT/LIRR operations; see below MP41-train-crew_c.1908_Keller.jpg (79112 bytes)
LIRR/BRT MP41 "Gibbs Car" c.1908
Archive: Dave Keller

This was a BRT-style coupler, as these MP41 cars were built to run in joint LIRR/BRT operation (which ended in 1917) and were even nicknamed "Gibbs Cars" after the guy who designed the similar electric passenger cars for the BRT.  After purchasing a bunch of these cars in 1905 for operation in newly-electrified territory, the LIRR purchased new MP54 cars in 1909-10.  The shorter, MP41 cars were eventually relegated to rapid-transit service along the Atlantic branch and the longer and newer MP54 cars were used in the rest of electrified territory.  I've never seen the coupler pushed over to one side like that.

MU Cars in Mitchel Field Shuttle Service

A single MP41 was first used in Mitchel Field shuttle service starting in 1933 after the ex-Ocean-Electric streetcars were taken out of shuttle service. Photographic evidence shows MP41 car #1100 and MP41 car #1101 both used in one-car shuttle service in 1933-34.

The single MP41 car had a 2nd car added to it after April, 1934 (photographic evidence) and ran as a 2-car train up to 1950. Photographic evidence indicates there were two sets of MP41 cars used in shuttle service. One set consisted of MP41 cars #'s 1092 and 1089, and one set consisted of MP41 cars #'s 1100 and 1101.

In 1950, the 2-car MP41 (#'s 1100, 1101) shuttle was replaced with a 2-car MP54 shuttle, and all MP41 cars were finally out of service at that time. The MP54 2-car shuttle ran until the end of passenger service in May, 1953. An interesting fact is that tickets were not sold for shuttle rides. Cash fares only were accepted. Research: Dave Keller

LIRR - PULLMAN Promotional  Photo 80 ft., AC, 120 seat commuter car

MP72C Pullman Standard 1955 Nos. 2501-2522

MP72C train eastbound at Sunnyside mid-1960's (Maywald-Boland)

MP72C #2512 - Dunton early 1960's

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LIRR #2519 MP72C Jamaica 1969
Archive: Dave Keller

MP72C West Hempstead early 1970's
Archive: Mike Boland


MP75C Pullman Standard 1963 Nos. 2525-2536
Converted to control trailers 5525-5536

Note: MP75 "Zip" cars did NOT have portholes at their ends; instead, a single square window to match the end and side doors.



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LIRR #2534 MP75C
Zip car control motor 
ex-World's Fair logo repaint - West Hempstead 
1/20/68 (Votava-Keller)

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LIRR #2536 MP75C Jamaica 1969
Archive: Dave Keller
MP72T Pullman Standard 1955-1956 Nos. 2602-2674 Converted to PT72C, PP72B (#2011-2021) and BG72B

MP75T Pullman Standard 1963 Nos. 2675-2692 Converted to trailers 5675-5692

LIRR #2678 1963 NY World's Fair Photo: Chicago Photographers Archive: Bill Mangahas

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LIRR #2679 MP-75T Jamaica 1969
Archive: Dave Keller


PP72B Pullman Standard 1955-56 Nos. 2011-2021 Push-pull Parlors were rebuilt former MU trailer cars (Class MP72T) converted to diesel-hauled push-pull service.  Parlor-2011_Scala-Boland.jpg (60343 bytes)
Parlor #2011 (John Scala - Mike Boland)
PT72A Pullman Standard 1553/1955? 2801-2844
PT72 Bar Pullman Standard 1955-56 2890, 2892, 2894 Tentative:  2829 and 2833
But only 2833, being used almost exclusively in push-pull parlor service, got the red stripe.
PT72C Pullman Standard 1955-56

2846-2898 Even Nos. only plus 2792, 2794, 2796

PT75 Pullman Standard 1963 2701-2723 odd #’s
PT75A Pullman Standard 1963

2702-2736 Even #’s only

PT74 Bar Pullman Standard 1963 2705
GTEL Budd/GE/Garrett 1977-? 8 cars purchased
Gas Turbine Power trains 4 GE/ & 4 Garrett GE’s converted to M-1s Garrett’s scrapped
M1 Budd 1968-1972 770 cars First run 12/30/19 68 Retired 2/2007 Nos. 9001-9770

Cars #9001-9016 built 1968
Cars #9017-9246 built 1969
Cars #9247-9476, 9491-9492, 9435-9438 built 1970
Cars #9477-9490, 9493-9534, 9539-9620 built 1971
Cars #9621-9770 ordered/built 1972

M3 Budd 1984-1986 174 cars phased in 1985-86 Nos. 9771-9944 Renumbered 9891-2 to 9945-6 after shooting.
M7 Bombardier 1999-2006

836 cars purchased  7001-7836
Long Island Rail Road: 836 cars

M9 Kawasaki Heavy Industries